I am a nonvtec boost guy and now my DA is stock again due to smog in cali. But now that my car is stock I was thinking about just dropping in a b18c(gsr) in my DA. But I would like to know what it would take to get 180-190whp from the engine without going into the block. I tried searching, but couldn't find anything exactly that I was looking for. Just want some feedback. thanks guys.

 

mugen headgasket + skunk2 pro1's + a nice header + ITR IM/TB + tuning

 

is that really all it takes ? so basically a nice exhaust, cams, mani. and TB, and a tune. and this should get you 180-190whp? anyone else with feed back ?

 

nawzzzzzzzzzzz

 

thats prolly what im gonna do with my jdm gsr, is just some s2s2's and i have a fiat hear and the aebs im and im shooting for in the low low 180's

 

180-190whp isn't really a lot these days...

 

that sounds too easy for 180-190, has me wanting to get mine dynoed to see if i'm around 200, lol.

 

I wonder what 180-190whp in an integra would run at the track with good tires and suspension.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffsciv23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that sounds too easy for 180-190, has me wanting to get mine dynoed to see if i'm around 200, lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

IMO it all depends on the header. These days there are so many better headers than the jdm 4-1 that even 200whp is not a big feat. **** omniman hit 200whp witha b16 and it didn't really have any crazy mods...

 

hmm, i guess i need to get on the dyno and find out then. anybody know of a similar set-up for comparison?
gsr, P&P head and milled 0.040, pr3 pistons, RM M24 cams, skunk IM, RMF header.

 

Stock jdm GSR Block

GSR head (stock, no port, nothing)
Skunk 2 Stage 2 Cams, springs and retainers w/ skunk2 cam gears
Skunk2 IM and TB
RC310s, AEM fuel rail and FPR
Rage header, t1r test pipe, buddy club spec 2 catback
Tuned by grey at millennium

193hp/128tq

 

well... 190-200whp sound easy these days but reality is...
All Bolts ons (better intake,ccam gears etc...)
+ PISTONS i dont think stock USDM GSR's will go up there w/ stock pistons....

and for the integra questions about time slips @ track.
My ls-vtec went 13.5 @ 103mph w/ BF drags, no seats. WITH : 192whp

 

without pistons, 180-190 is not easy, unless you play with dyno, than 280 is easy...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">without pistons, 180-190 is not easy, unless you play with dyno, than 280 is easy...</TD></TR></TABLE>

even with a jdm gsr? With a 10.6 CR, thats as much as a usdm type R.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChameleonDesignz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well... 190-200whp sound easy these days but reality is...
All Bolts ons (better intake,ccam gears etc...)
+ PISTONS i dont think stock USDM GSR's will go up there w/ stock pistons....

and for the integra questions about time slips @ track.
My ls-vtec went 13.5 @ 103mph w/ BF drags, no seats. WITH : 192whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a nice time. I would be satisfied with a time like that from my integ. Was the car gutted? How did it do with street tires ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">without pistons, 180-190 is not easy, unless you play with dyno, than 280 is easy...</TD></TR></TABLE>It's doable though.....
My chart (like 4 post up) is legit, SAE corrected (.93 CF, ~50 degrees at 20% humidity) and on a dynojet. It made 207 uncorrected.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tecnic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's doable though.....
My chart (like 4 post up) is legit, SAE corrected (.93 CF, ~50 degrees at 20% humidity) and on a dynojet. It made 207 uncorrected.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically, all you had were some good cams, a good flowing full exhaust, IM/TB and a tune. other than that it was a stock b18c. Thats very impressive.

 

I don't know how comparable a jdm gsr is to a a usdm itr engine (same compression), but if you poke around the itr forums, you can see 180-190 with just bolt ons.

Without any valvetrain upgrades, it seems that those folks who hit those numbers have most of the high end bolt ons, hytech/sms/mugen/toda/etc. And don't forget tuning!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tecnic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock jdm GSR Block

GSR head (stock, no port, nothing)
Skunk 2 Stage 2 Cams, springs and retainers w/ skunk2 cam gears
Skunk2 IM and TB
RC310s, AEM fuel rail and FPR
Rage header, t1r test pipe, buddy club spec 2 catback
Tuned by grey at millennium

193hp/128tq

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wow, nice numbers for the mods listed

 

great numbers from a simple setup

 

You could just go for the JDM B18c-R and have 180whp right away.

If your just going to build the GSR motor after you buy it, might as well just get the type R.

I think the money you use on teh build will be close to equal the extra money for the Type-R.

My Stock 98 b18c-R motor with Whale ***** Intake, custom 2 1/4 inch Exhaust and Hondata S200 put down 177whp.

And besides you will have a better Tranny, a stronger bottom end and a Better head.

 

i think you'll need more then that to get 180 ,190.

 

some of you people need to wake up and smell the coffee. it's 2006, 180-190whp is not hard at all these days....anything can make 180whp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tecnic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock jdm GSR Block

GSR head (stock, no port, nothing)
Skunk 2 Stage 2 Cams, springs and retainers w/ skunk2 cam gears
Skunk2 IM and TB
RC310s, AEM fuel rail and FPR
Rage header, t1r test pipe, buddy club spec 2 catback
Tuned by grey at millennium

193hp/128tq
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Nice numbers. What did you end up with for cam timing ?

 

a friend of mine has a 2000 gsr with just an intake, type R 4-1 header, 2.25 custom exhaust, and BC3+ cams hit 181 on the dyno after tuning on Crome.. so yeah, its simple