alright heres the deal i have a 93 dx wit a 95 ls swap in it and the thing eats gas like u wouldnt belive prolly gets about 100 miles to the tank ... and it runs like **** at idle like it misses but its got brand new plugs wires cap rotor and dis... does anyone have any ideas on wat could cause it

 

no CEL's?

 

are your spark plug wires in the correct order? get any water in the spark plug holes?

 

TPS...

 

02 sensors

 

timing or wiring

 

end this ...buy a bike

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solbrothers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are sure that swap is an LS??? or is it a LS1...lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

You do realize that an LS1 makes 3x more hp than any honda stock, and gets equal gas mileage right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85_305 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You do realize that an LS1 makes 3x more hp than any honda stock, and gets equal gas mileage right?</TD></TR></TABLE> no way fo real????.... not any stock honda my boy

 

Things to check: o2 sensor, right ECU, pull any CELs, check timing, injectors

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Throwdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> no way fo real????.... not any stock honda my boy</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh really? Ok.. I'm interested. Fill me in.

 

whats to fill you in ? you really think a LS1 gets equal MPG then a honda hybrid and thats just for starts... what about the vx's and cx hatch...the list can go on.. yes yes you already have the displacement..you can't have the great MPG as well

 

i checked everything and its all right but i do have the check engine light on for a tps and ect would them have anyting to do wit it ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Throwdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats to fill you in ? you really think a LS1 gets equal MPG then a honda hybrid and thats just for starts... what about the vx's and cx hatch...the list can go on.. yes yes you already have the displacement..you can't have the great MPG as well </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good Story Go do a search on camaroz28.com sometime and see how many 360-420rwhp LS1's get 30-32mpg on average And last I looked, a honda hybrid is putting out a honda-overated 253hp to the flywheel.. quite a bit different than 360 to the wheels
And the Z06 Corvette? 505hp? 32+mpg? Sounds good to me 8*)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85_305 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good Story Go do a search on camaroz28.com sometime and see how many 360-420rwhp LS1's get 30-32mpg on average And last I looked, a honda hybrid is putting out a honda-overated 253hp to the flywheel.. quite a bit different than 360 to the wheels
And the Z06 Corvette? 505hp? 32+mpg? Sounds good to me 8*)</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF is this even an arguement for??? an LS1 WONT get 30mpg unless driven by grandma on the highway doing 60mph for a whole tank, and power, bwahah, lets just say NOWHERE NEAR 100hp/liter.

but just for ***** and giggles lets really compare. 95 honda civic vx VS: 95 trans am. sure one will win 1/4 mile race, but the other will win a MPG test.

DONT COME IN HERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR DOMESTICS BEING ALL MIGHTY, THAT AINT COOL, SURE THEY MAKE GOBS OF POWER WITH THEIR 5.0L AND UP COMPARED TO OUR 2.4L AT BEST, BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DONT GET NEARLY AS MUCH MILEAGE AS THE HONDAS SO DONT EVEN TRY THAT ****.

 

ok bro i dont really care about ur trans am or wateva u have and i know a couple of honda guys that put more power down then ur car and still gets betta gas millege so get ur facts straight

 

Hey guys

This thread blows!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85_305 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You do realize that an LS1 makes 3x more hp than any honda stock, and gets equal gas mileage right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, driven limp dicked around town with the CAGS system. Spent plenty of time in the F-body/C-body game..you ain't foolin me brother. Been there so hard I was invested in the company that made that t-shirt. Plus if you believe dealer claims to gas mileage your on crack. In reality people who drive those cars don't drive like Grandpa on his way to dialysis.

I mean, you know what, this is such an assenine statement I just am not going to continue to respond. If you honestly think a pushrod V8 is so damn efficient that it makes 3x the power on the same fuel as a stock Honda then you've immediately proven your not worthy of speaking.

Drop your T-tops and limp that Quadrajetted 305 out of here. Post an engine bay pic before you leave too so I can see that pep boys edelbrock air cleaner I know you have that gave you all that horsepower.


O.P. Fix your engine lights [/thread]


Modified by RC000E at 12:46 AM 12/26/2006

 

Oh boy this is gonna be fun.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WTF is this even an arguement for??? an LS1 WONT get 30mpg unless driven by grandma on the highway doing 60mph for a whole tank, and power, bwahah, lets just say NOWHERE NEAR 100hp/liter.

but just for ***** and giggles lets really compare. 95 honda civic vx VS: 95 trans am. sure one will win 1/4 mile race, but the other will win a MPG test.

DONT COME IN HERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR DOMESTICS BEING ALL MIGHTY, THAT AINT COOL, SURE THEY MAKE GOBS OF POWER WITH THEIR 5.0L AND UP COMPARED TO OUR 2.4L AT BEST, BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DONT GET NEARLY AS MUCH MILEAGE AS THE HONDAS SO DONT EVEN TRY THAT ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It wont get 30mpg unless driven by grandma? Ok. Keep that in mind while I post a thread on cz28.com asking for everyones mpg And whats 100hp/liter got anything to do with anything? Fact of the matter is. NO honda STOCK can compare with an LS1. Or LS2. Or LS7. Or.. well, you get the idea. But since domestics suck, lets wait for my thread to accumulate replies.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jarred b18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok bro i dont really care about ur trans am or wateva u have and i know a couple of honda guys that put more power down then ur car and still gets betta gas millege so get ur facts straight </TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said that my 305 would get better gas mileage (well, actually it does.. 30mpg w/ the factory Quadrajet.. but thats neither here nor there in this conversation). Maybe you should get your reading comprehension straight. I said an LS1 not an LG4.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, driven limp dicked around town with the CAGS system. Spent plenty of time in the F-body/C-body game..you ain't foolin me brother. Been there so hard I was invested in the company that made that t-shirt. Plus if you believe dealer claims to gas mileage your on crack. In reality people who drive those cars don't drive like Grandpa on his way to dialysis.

I mean, you know what, this is such an assenine statement I just am not going to continue to respond. If you honestly think a pushrod V8 is so damn efficient that it makes 3x the power on the same fuel as a stock Honda then you've immediately proven your not worthy of speaking.

Drop your T-tops and limp that Quadrajetted 305 out of here. Post an engine bay pic before you leave too so I can see that pep boys edelbrock air cleaner I know you have that gave you all that horsepower.


O.P. Fix your engine lights [/thread]


Modified by RC000E at 12:46 AM 12/26/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, the dealer (and GM) not only underated the hp at 320 to the fly wheel (terribly wrong), but the gas mileage. I know people that get FAR better gas mileage than what the dealer/GM claims. But hey. It's only a pushrod v8 right? Remember that when I show you that thread I made, and remember that the next time your honda lines up against one.

 

Well, here are a few replies anyhow.
http://web.camaross.com/forums...age=2

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85_305 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, here are a few replies anyhow.
http://web.camaross.com/forums...age=2</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for digging your own grave.

and for the record, in the mid 80s honda started working on their fuel sippers, by 1992 they came out with the civic VX which gets upwards of 52mpg on the highway, and 48mpg in the city. that engine happened to be 1.5l in size, and pushed out a "FUN" 92hp at the crank, and the final drive of 3.25 gave less than lackluster performance, if you know what i mean. with that being said, sure ANY v8 will make more hp, thats where the HP/liter came into play, how many N/A stock GM engines make 100hp/liter??? and do it while making OVER 30 mpg??? NONE, dont "beg" people to say they do in your post, it doesnt happen. im a car enthusiest that is into every aspect of the game, not just hondas, hell i dont even drive a honda, so this is my honest un-biased opinion.

NOW, lets swap an H22 into the civic, 30mpg EASILY, 180whp/160wtq, and mid 13 second 1/4 miles. see my point????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

DONT COME IN HERE TALKING ABOUT YOUR DOMESTICS BEING ALL MIGHTY, THAT AINT COOL, SURE THEY MAKE GOBS OF POWER WITH THEIR 5.0L AND UP COMPARED TO OUR 2.4L AT BEST, BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DONT GET NEARLY AS MUCH MILEAGE AS THE HONDAS SO DONT EVEN TRY THAT ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm here for the Caps Lock rage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thanks for digging your own grave.

and for the record, in the mid 80s honda started working on their fuel sippers, by 1992 they came out with the civic VX which gets upwards of 52mpg on the highway, and 48mpg in the city. that engine happened to be 1.5l in size, and pushed out a "FUN" 92hp at the crank, and the final drive of 3.25 gave less than lackluster performance, if you know what i mean. with that being said, sure ANY v8 will make more hp, thats where the HP/liter came into play, how many N/A stock GM engines make 100hp/liter??? and do it while making OVER 30 mpg??? NONE, dont "beg" people to say they do in your post, it doesnt happen. im a car enthusiest that is into every aspect of the game, not just hondas, hell i dont even drive a honda, so this is my honest un-biased opinion.

NOW, lets swap an H22 into the civic, 30mpg EASILY, 180whp/160wtq, and mid 13 second 1/4 miles. see my point???? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I dug my own grave by showing people getting 30+mpg w/ their 330+rwhp LS1's? Wow do you guys here at HT do things weird. I NEVER ONCE said hondas don't get good gas mileage though. Dont play that card Brotha. But I am yet to see a bone-stock, right outta the factory floor 330+rwhp Honda achieving greater than 30mpg
Lets not get into motor swaps and mods, and leave this at a factory-level discussion
And I am unbiased as well. I will give a car credit where credit is due. And the LS1 (and LT1 for that matter) deserve credit as being some of the best all-around motors created.

 

this discussion was brought upon by you saying an LSx would get 30+ mpg, like that was better than a honda.

nobody has bashed your "pushrod" v8 either.

this arguement is pointless, by the way, NOBODY has said they can EASILY get 30+mpg on your link, most of them are actually critizising you for even saying something like that.

most of the LSx engines are efficient for their size, and make good power, but nowhere near as efficient as a HONDA, thats my arguement.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this discussion was brought upon by you saying an LSx would get 30+ mpg, like that was better than a honda.

nobody has bashed your "pushrod" v8 either.

this arguement is pointless, by the way, NOBODY has said they can EASILY get 30+mpg on your link, most of them are actually critizising you for even saying something like that.

most of the LSx engines are efficient for their size, and make good power, but nowhere near as efficient as a HONDA, thats my arguement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh.. no no no I wasn't saying it like it was better than a honda.. i was just responding to the guy that said "what.. are you driving an ls1 instead of an LS?" or whatever he said.. implying that LS1's were infact, of a lower level than hondas. And most of them said it was relatively easy; ie crusing w/ the windows down, top down etc..