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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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first up happy christmass to all on the itr boards...

secondly im going to treat myself to new brakes in the new year so what do you guys 'N' gals recomend...

Spoon,black diamond etc....and im interesed in opinions of people who have tryed differant set-ups if thats ok

we track dayed my R last week (gf prezzie) and i warped the front discs which was pretty cool since there was smoke comeing off them when we finished,LoL.
they still brake fine but if im going to change i might as well get a good set up.

anywho any imput is greatly welcomed.

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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srd.... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we track dayed my R last week (gf prezzie) and i warped the front discs which was pretty cool since there was smoke comeing off them when we finished,LoL.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Were you still using the stock pads?
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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yup...
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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SRD, honestly, I would upgrade your pads. If you want the blingness, go for the Spoon caliper but I will always use cheapy rotors and a good pair of pads. Merry Christmas.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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my OEM pads used to make wheel wobble after a single hard brake when attempting to use them shortly after


just changing my pads to EBC redstuff ceramic's cured this problem

OEM discs are fine with a good selection of pad
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Sounds like your rotors need to be resurfaced or possibly replaced.
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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the rotors (discs ) are fine since i swapped pads, i've never had wheel wobble since i swapped them out
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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first off thanks guys for you input....

secondly thanks brooklyn and im not being sarcastic here but i know how to use the search option,but thanks again bud...

still though i'll get new pads all round but i do feel like treating her and myself to new discs also...so please if you can what discs do you recomend....or are EBC redstuff ceramic's pads the dogs nads!!!

i just want options if you know what i mean,but im looking towards the black diamonds a.t.m. but id still like opinions of people who have tryed differant set ups....

and again happy x-mass all

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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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look into cobalt pads. i have been pleased with mine....which i won at the expo raffle
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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What size tire & wheel are you on? What kind of tires?

Do you plan on swapping on different pads before your track events or are you looking for a compromise between a street pad and track pad?


^ will help us in recommending a setup that is best for YOUR needs, rather than the people that just blindly recommend what they use for their car.

Merry xmass.


Modified by BlueTeg at 2:52 AM 12/26/2006
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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I'm using Ap Dixcel FCR disk (30% more carbon in it) at the Front with Type Z pads and at the Back i'm using Ap Dixcel SD disc with Type Z pads , and i have tryed them but still no fading and how hard i brake them every time no fading.

http://www.dixcel.jp/ or http://www.apbrake.com/
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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thanks again lads...

im on the jap i5" alloys 4 lug on bridgestone 195/55 tyres

i wont be swapping up to 5 lug and it'll be really only be street driveing ill be doing.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srd.... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

secondly thanks brooklyn and im not being sarcastic here but i know how to use the search option,but thanks again bud...

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You obviously are being sarcastic becuase I think this bigger calp, bigger rotor comes up once a month.

All rotors are are peices of steel. I use Autozone front rotors that cost 25 bucks a piece. I use cobalt brakes. Don't forget to run some better high temp fluid. Like Ats superblue or that **** with the red cap...Brain is getting away from me. Someone chime in...

And then if you think you still need better brakes what tires are you running? That prolly why your not stopping fast enough then.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SRD, honestly, I would upgrade your pads. If you want the blingness, go for the Spoon caliper but I will always use cheapy rotors and a good pair of pads. Merry Christmas. </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

There is absolutely no point in wasting money on some blingy rotors! Autozone rotors, good pads, and spoon caliper user here and love them!
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You obviously are being sarcastic....</TD></TR></TABLE>

no bud if i was you'd know it.
but thanks for your input and i'll look into the cobalt brakes and like i said in the first post i warped the front disc's on the track thats why im looking to change....

anyway thanks everyone for your input you've given me some good options that i'll look into
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srd.... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im on the jap i5" alloys 4 lug on bridgestone 195/55 tyres

i wont be swapping up to 5 lug and it'll be really only be street driveing ill be doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are: (1) on street tires, (2) plan on using the car for 95% street duty, (3) don't want to hassle with switching pads before/after track days, then I'd recommend a high peformance street / light duty track pad. I love the Cobalt lineup of pads. For what you're using the car for, I'd recommend the GT Sports.

I don't know what kind of auto part stores you have in IRE, but here in the states we have Autozone, CSK (checker, schucks, kragen), NAPA, Pep Boys, etc. Most all of them carry 'generic' brands of rotors (aimco, duralast, valucraft, etc.). I would go to your local autoparts store and just ask what kind of oem replacements they offer for your R. The plain jane blanks are more that suitable for a recreational driver. Stay away from the cross drilled and/or slotted rotors. Stick with the blanks.

I wouldn't bother upgrading the calipers if you're on street tires. Not worth it unless you want a shiny caliper under the wheel w/ a Spoon or Endless logo on it to show your friends. If you can still lock the brakes up at the end of a session when the brake system is heat soaked, then you do not need the extra torque from a bigger/stronger caliper.

I would look at upgrading your brake fluid. ATE Blue seems to the most popular at a 'reasonable price' (guess that's relative to your budget though ). I use the ATE Blue on my track car, it holds up very well on brake intensive circuit courses, even in the summer months when the ambient temps are 100-110 degrees.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srd.... &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
still though i'll get new pads all round but i do feel like treating her and myself to new discs also...so please if you can what discs do you recomend....or are EBC redstuff ceramic's pads the dogs nads!!!
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Uhhh not sure if the dog's nads are good or bad. LOL.

I myself have never used the EBC Reds. But a friend of mine roasted through a set 2 weekends of track driving in his ITR. Stick with the Cobalt Friction or Hawk lineup.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
All rotors are are peices of steel.
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Ehhh, I think you mean iron.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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were they EBC red ceramics or normal reds?


the normal reds are fine for street/light duty track work but certainly not up to being punished constantly and often, as your friend proved
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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normal reds.

And now that I think I think about, I guess if you took any of the 'street' pads from Cobalt or Hawk (or in EBC's case the Reds?) they may have the same fate with an instructor caliber driver flogging them for 16, twenty minutes sessions within a 14 day span. Maybe the reds aren't all that bad for this type of scenario.

&lt;--- Cobalt junkie
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