Ok, I would like to know what you think went wrong. My 98 accord clutch was slipping so I drove for a few months with a slipping clutch to the point where I could not drive it anymore.

Due to the fact that I moved to a new house and xmas etc... I took it to a mechanic that I thought was decent since he has been in business for a long *** time, likes hondas etc....

So I took my car there with a new clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing. Bought them new from advance auto.

So the parts get installed on my accord and I pick up the car. For the next 2 days I noticed the following:

-car made a weird winny noise on 3rd and 4th gear
-on the highway and while on 5th gear, under load/acceleration the gear would pop out... would also do it on 4th gear. Only way for the gear not to pop out would be me pressing it in etc....

So I knew something was wrong but I thought about the position of the shifter cables but I could not see anything wrong...

So forward to last night.,... While on the road at about 50mph my front wheels locked up like they would if the ebrake was controling them forcing the car to stop while I was turning.... I was lucky not to hit anything.. If a truck was coming the other way, I would be toast for sure.. Instead it did like a 180 and car stalled. I quickly realised that the shifter doesn't control the tranny. Even though the shifter is in neutral position, the car is stuck on 3rd gear... so I was able to drive it back to my work and park it there till I figure out what to do.

What do you think went wrong in the clutch install? I am 100% certain that the tranny was perfect when I dropped the car off, but I can see him blaming this on the syncros or some ****...

Any ideas? I appreciate your time if you can provide some good insight.

 

sounds like the pressure plate might have been installed backwards, or the clutch cables tore. I have had the clutch cables tear on me bout 7yrs ago when I got the h22 installed in my car. Turns out it was their fault when they installed the H. double check the cables if theyre fine its the pressure plate.

 

It has a hydraulic clutch so you think it is the pressure plate? Ok thanks, anybody else?

 

I have a 97 accord, didnt realize they changed over to hydraulic in 98. In that case it would be logical to check the hydraulic lines too and make sure everything was reinstalled correctly. The pressure plate is the next culprit. Honestly it cant be much else. The synchros take more than a bad clutch install to damage or destroy them....

 

I know that, but most mechanics assume customers are stupid, hence why I am asking before I talk to them

 

I almost guarantee that he did not fill up the tranny with fluid. The fact that you had to hold it in 5th gear is a dead give away.

You should have stopped driving it and taken it back. But now you probably welded the gears together. The tranny is probably absolute trash now. But it is completely the shops fault. get the car towed to the shop and tell them you want to watch as the open the drain plug to see if there is any fluid in there.

All accords since the early 90's have been hydraulic clutches.
And there is no way to install a pressure plate backwards. A clutch yes, not a pressure plate.

 

my bad thats what I meant the clutch not the pressure plate thanks for correcting me. there really wouldnt be much of need to completely drain the tranny fluid unless requested. And I do have a cable tranny. trust me on that one I think they have cables all along till 98's hit the seen. Your probably thinking of B & D series motors they are for sure hydro clutches.

 

I understand the clutch has been hydraulic since the early 90's. and the shifter had been a cable since then too.

Are you saying that the 98 doesnt have cables? thats wrong. Accords still have hydraulic clutchs and cable shift linkage.

And I almost guarantee that the fluid probably leaked out of the tranny when the took the axles out. and that they didn't fill it up when they put it back in.

 

I fear that as well. The car is on its way back to the shop

 

I agree with you whole heartedly with it leaking out by the axle holes. I was referring to the clutch cables for the shifter in my first response and nothing else. Personally the cable response feels better than a hydraulic shifter. Its also possible that the shifter cable was re-installed improperly (personal expierence)


Modified by Drkaccrd at 2:02 PM 12/21/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulrevon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I almost guarantee that he did not fill up the tranny with fluid. The fact that you had to hold it in 5th gear is a dead give away.

You should have stopped driving it and taken it back. But now you probably welded the gears together. The tranny is probably absolute trash now. But it is completely the shops fault. get the car towed to the shop and tell them you want to watch as the open the drain plug to see if there is any fluid in there.

All accords since the early 90's have been hydraulic clutches.
And there is no way to install a pressure plate backwards. A clutch yes, not a pressure plate.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This man speaks the truth.

Pressure plate backwards?? My 95 accord has a hydro clutch line. Miss information killed the cat. Please if you don't know what you are talking about people don't share, I'm not flaming anyone, but this needs to stop.

 

Ive helped in putting my own clutch in my car which happens to be an 97 accord with an H motor. It is a cable to the shifter. It is possible to put the clutch on backwards. Grey area .... it does exist, not just black and white........ Why dont you ask any real mechanic and they will tell you if a bozo installed it can be done wrong. My clutch just happen to be installed correctly CM STG4 and lasted 5yrs before being replaced.

 

98 accord has a cable shifter, but a hydraulic clutch system.

I agree with the people who said the tranny's smoked due to no fluid. You have to drain the transmission before removal or it makes a big mess. Sounds like that's it, as I can't think of any possible way the clutch alone could cause the symptoms you're describing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kulrevon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the car towed to the shop and tell them you want to watch as the open the drain plug to see if there is any fluid in there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

No fluid in trans lead to gear lock up.

I wouldn't bring my car back there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98 accord has a cable shifter, but a hydraulic clutch system.

I agree with the people who said the tranny's smoked due to no fluid. You have to drain the transmission before removal or it makes a big mess. Sounds like that's it, as I can't think of any possible way the clutch alone could cause the symptoms you're describing.


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slamaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No fluid in trans lead to gear lock up.

I wouldn't bring my car back there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

all I offered were other scenarios thats happened to me before and it wasnt cool. But if yall have driven or know someone that have driven with no tranny fluid and burnt up the tranny that must have really sucked!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drkaccrd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive helped in putting my own clutch in my car which happens to be an 97 accord with an H motor. It is a cable to the shifter. It is possible to put the clutch on backwards. Grey area .... it does exist, not just black and white........ Why dont you ask any real mechanic and they will tell you if a bozo installed it can be done wrong. My clutch just happen to be installed correctly CM STG4 and lasted 5yrs before being replaced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can't put a pressure plate on backwards without really customizing things for no reason.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drkaccrd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was referring to the clutch cables for the shifter in my first response and nothing else. Personally the cable response feels better than a hydraulic shifter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont recall any honda having a hydraulic shifter setup. f/h/k use cables, b/d/f2xc use shift linkages.

 

keep us posted after it comes back from the shop

 

thanks for backing that up

 

subscribed....i want to see whats gonna happen next....so suspenseful!....btw i hope you get your **** fixed for free.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pos_cd5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.btw i hope you get your **** fixed for free.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets just hope. Good Luck

 

Thanks for the interest. I really blame myself for this mess. I know.. I know.. if I were the average Joe that doesn't know crap about his car , I would say.. screw it.. it is his fault 100%. I cannot help but to think that I should have checked the tranny fluid before and fixed it on my own before it went boom. With the holidays, work, my kids, my k24a Civic I am working on , a new house and all this other **** that overwhelms me, I just took it for granted that the accord was ok... I even went to the mechanic, a day after I picked the car up and asked him if he put tranny fluid in the car..

I don;t want to take him to court over this.. He hasn't looked at the car yet but I guess he will check it out today or next week.

I called around 5 places to get the clutch done...Honda dealer wanted $1200... most places wanted $500 just for labor.. I got this done at this guy for $318 and I supplied the parts. He was next to my old house and he had worked on this car before.. I also know one of his son, he had a CRX that I beat at the track with my TSX EG..lol Crap!

Since I started putting motors together, I always talk about how I don't trust mechanics and how most of the time, they just try to get it done fast etc..... and then this happens and bites me in the ***... crap..

Anyway, I am going to call around to get an idea on a used tranny.

I am not saying that I am not going to bitch at the guy, but the chances of him doing the right thing are slim... You never know though, there are some good people left.