I'm wondering if it would be worth it to drop the LS and boost it or just skip the swap and boost the D16y7. I've heard that boosting the D16 will be almost as powerful as boosting the LS but I highly doubt it. Which is the better idea?

 

save money and boost the D... it will be very close in regards to power. with the extra money you save from NOT doing a swap you can put in some forged pistons and rods a good cam and crank out 300whp all day long.

 

Thanks a lot

 

no prob, if you search turbo d16 you'll come up with a lot of info from other peeps who did it already, most of them are very happy with the results...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save money and boost the D... it will be very close in regards to power. with the extra money you save from NOT doing a swap you can put in some forged pistons and rods a good cam and crank out 300whp all day long.</TD></TR></TABLE>
is this guy serious?

 

Sirek4, just cause were beefin dosent mean you have to disagree with me on everything, ive had beef with a lot of peeps but if something they say makes sense im not going to disagree for no reason, beef with me all you want but dont give this guy bad advice cause you got a problem with me.

 

Turbo the D

Blinx9900 was right on, use the money you save and build the block. 300 hp is a strech though, aim for 200 unless you are spending quite a bit on building it.

 

+1 for the turbod

 

huh? there are plenty of people that boost a stock ls that will make around 300 hp to the ground and daily drive it. there is a ls-t thread that is like 350 pages long. Too lazy to find it. A stock d series will do what.... 180 hp?

 

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Indeed LS motors are great to boost, granted you are starting with one. The money spent on swapping in the LS can rather be spent to achieve a similar amount of power with the D. I guess it all comes down to preferance Can't really go wrong either way

 

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X2 thats why i said just boost the d and build it with the $$ saved from not swapping. its already in there. and a built d at 300whp is a lot more reliable than an ls stock bottom end at 300whp.

 

i plan on boosting my d its cheaper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save money and boost the D... it will be very close in regards to power. with the extra money you save from NOT doing a swap you can put in some forged pistons and rods a good cam and crank out 300whp all day long.</TD></TR></TABLE>



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I agree with him, but before you start flaming me too, I'm curious to know what (since you object so bluntly) is the basis for your objection? Please elaborate and/or correct if that's what your intentions are as that's what they imply.

 

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i second that notion... and for the records blinx9900, im not beeinf with you, i just think your info is incorrect.
building a bottom end isnt a couple bucks, you need to send it off the a machine shop to get honed, head re-surfaced, block balanced, new oil pan gasket, new bearings, pistons and rods installed, new head gasket, motor re-assembled, motor swapped back in, hes still gonna need injectors, a fuel pump, fpr, a good rail wouldnt hurt... then buy the turbo kit... and you mean to tell me thats a way of saving money???
not to mention the time it will take for the machine shop to finish your motor.
now tell me, why do all that to make what... 300 wheel?
you can make that off a stock ls turbo with a good tune.

but its cool blinx9900, maybe you just forgot to leave all that stuff out, ill give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

hes in fl im sure theres a shop local that can do all that, plus it costs about 1800 for a full ls swap plus labor if he dosent do it himself, im sure he can get all of what you mentioned for about that or less. he dosent need a fuel rail, all the other fuel components he will need regardless of what motor he goes with, hes gonna pay labor wether he takes his out to build it or takes his out to swap in an ls. so yeah its not that hes saving money its that hes spending it wiser imo, and with that build he can have way more than 300whp when i said 300whp all day i meant and still get 100k miles out of it.

 

if you do choose to boost your d, you want to swap to a y8 intake manifold

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hes in fl im sure theres a shop local that can do all that, plus it costs about 1800 for a full ls swap plus labor if he dosent do it himself, im sure he can get all of what you mentioned for about that or less. he dosent need a fuel rail, all the other fuel components he will need regardless of what motor he goes with, hes gonna pay labor wether he takes his out to build it or takes his out to swap in an ls. so yeah its not that hes saving money its that hes spending it wiser imo, and with that build he can have way more than 300whp when i said 300whp all day i meant and still get 100k miles out of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean to tell me you would run stock fuel components with a fully built bottom end?
and also, ls swaps are alot cheaper than that. i can get a full ls changeover for about 900-1000 bucks. i dont know what shops your going to.

 

good point

 

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thank you blinx9900, see, now were making progress... communication is everything.

 

if you can get an ls swap for 900 bucks, I must be looking in the wrong places too. But then again **** probably is easier to find in CA

 

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i meant good point to the y8 mani comment, but you are correct too, you said:

"hes still gonna need injectors, a fuel pump, fpr"

so i said hes gonna need all that regardless of if he swaps or not. but 18 is the going pice for ls swaps, i know you can find deals here and there hell i got my b16b for 2500 but i dont know how much this guy can get an ls for...

 

boost the **** out of the d16

and when your motor blows just buy another for cheap like 400 bucks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRek4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean to tell me you would run stock fuel components with a fully built bottom end?
and also, ls swaps are alot cheaper than that. i can get a full ls changeover for about 900-1000 bucks. i dont know what shops your going to.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And I suppose you're going to tell me that he's going to use the stock fuel system for the LS?

For $1000, you can build a bottom end capable of 400whp. Vitara pistons, Eagle rods, new oil/water pump, new oem bearings, and ARP head studs. Everything else regarding the turbo setup, is going to the be the same whether he goes with an LS core or a SOHC core.

There are also plenty of people pushing 250whp on the stock blocks, I'm pushing 210 and could do more without much of a problem.

 

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And I suppose you're going to tell me that he's going to use the stock fuel system for the LS?

For $1000, you can build a bottom end capable of 400whp. Vitara pistons, Eagle rods, new oil/water pump, new oem bearings, and ARP head studs. Everything else regarding the turbo setup, is going to the be the same whether he goes with an LS core or a SOHC core.

There are also plenty of people pushing 250whp on the stock blocks, I'm pushing 210 and could do more without much of a problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>
N1ka y0urz **** going to blow up my homiez swapped b16 is pushing 5 psi in his EG hatch.

sohcs bee mad ghey like dem *** v8

Aaron I warned you, this part of the site is dumber then A/C mated to the GDD.

 

you guys are forgetting a lot when you talk about what he needs, it all depends on his set-up, ****, he is obd-2, he is going to have to convert to obd-1, which cost money, and he still has to get it tuned, sorry, caz a fmu aint going to get you passed much more than 7-9 psi, and your 300 hp all day isn't going to just be 7-9 psi.....unless you want to blow it up, im thinking about just piecing my own kit together, just run 7psi (which is internally wastegated on the turbo im getting for free ) ill run a fpr, feul pump, fmu and ill see how my spare y8 injectors hold up...... if they don't ill just buy new ones, and now at all this, is your ride going to be able to handle the power? your going to need a new clutch, are your tires up for the job, what about the suspension? boost gauge? a/f? you should just suck it up and do what i did, forget about the motor and bumble bee exhaust, and i know you guys are probably draggers, but i plan to circuit mine, i have an amazing suspension, capable brakes, and the very few touches to the car that i wanted to feel complete, now all i have to do is work on the motor and i have a bad *** car