hello everybody well plannin to turbo my 96 accord non Vtec so
ive been readin other forums and i want to get all the parts to make a custom turbo so ive been told that i can use the turbo manifold and the turbo itself from an eclipse or talon is this true?
Also wat do i need to turbo my car and make it a daily driving vehicle the wont mess up later on the rode im just planing to boost to at least 7-9 lbs of boost wat kind of mods. do i need for my F22 to handle such thing?
Also i see kits out there for other cars and i know wat they come with now wat does a turbo timer do to a car?

 

time for you to visit the forced induction forum! it's down the page

 

DON'T DO IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unless you have some money to spend. I don't care what anybody says about runnin safe psi on stock interns. Unless you plan on only runnin 5PSI, which ain't ****. I'm going thru hell right now, and I did things right. gotta go be back in a minute.

 

I still don't get where ppl get these magical cutoff numbers as to what is ok "for and F22".

Here's a wacky thought, assess the current condition of your motor and go from there. There is no magic threashold for safe daily boost on a motor that probably has well over 100k on it, i can, with confidence, say that 33psi is a poor plan, but I know ppl that have been boosting 10# FOR YEARS on stock blocks with zero problems.

I am about to turbo my third F22b2 and Im not going to doa damn thing to it short of a riser. set things at 10# with an mbc I have sitting in the garage and I will go on with my life.

there is no magic involved with turboing an F, in fact it is a very stout little motor that can take a tremendous amount of abuse, far more than those little Ds and Bs all the boy racers love so much. On top of this, blow your motor? Go get a new longblock for under $250 and drop it in, problem solved.


jeez.

edit - before all you ladies start getting technical, "new longblock" = junkyard

 

I 'm not even goin to list all the stuff I put on my f22 so it could handle 15psi, but one of three things that didn't get changed (valve train, rods , crank) the rod broke and went thru the block. for a good block it is costing me $550 , and Ive been lookin for 2 weeks now. point of story, I've already put $9700 in motor , gettin ready to put another $3000. expletive runnin on stock ****, I know better.

 

I am not going to start a pissing match here but saying a certain psi or above is not safe is not accurate.

First of all, 5 psi is not the same volume of air on different size turbochargers... so simply saying only boost 5 psi is the safe is not a good way to rate the limit of the motor. 5 psi on a t25 is VERY different from 5 psi on a 60-1.

Even then I would not say it is so cut and dry to rate even say a specific turbocharger to a given boost level... so many variables would factor into a situation that would need to be considered. Naturally the parts used in the setup, fuel management, the tune on it, motor condition, intended use (drag, road course, etc.), etc. all play a major part in evaluating the limits of a f/i build in my opinion.

I ran a shot of nitrous for quite a while then switched to the turbocharger, I initially ran only low boost and later started to push more with good tuning at every increase of boost. I only stoped when I reached the limit of my injectors and everything was perfect. It ran like this for a long while before one night of hard running I had a nasty boost spike (to a pressure I was not tuned for, 20+ psi and I had no boost cut cause I told the tuner to leave it off) and only then did it start to have some problems (cause it ran out of injector and leaned out). Ended up being a leaking head gasket and a cracked ringlanding in one cyl... no big deal really considering I had not lifted (cause I did not spot the spike for a few seconds) and drove it home before I noticed the lumpy idle. I had been running 15-16 psi on a 60-1 and it was not until I made the mistakes of not having the boost cut opinion on to control the spike or lifting sooner or pushing to the limit of my injector with no room for error... I was the one who screwed up.

Even then I could done a few things that would have been cheap and easy to get it running agian just as good or better than it was... hell a junkyard f22b1 is only like 150 around here. I could have just as easily put a fresh hone on the motor and rebuilt it with new slightly oversized pistons/ new rods/ bearings/ etc. BAM I am back boosting rather for very little invested.

turboderrick: YOU SPENT HOW MUCH!?!?! 550 on a block, a stock block? 9700 on the motor, what parts did you buy?

Seriously man... I am sorry to say this (not trying to be rude) I hope your exagerating... cause thats out of the ballpark.

 

well $2200 of that is for labor on build , and 5 hours on dyno. As far as parts go , top of the line **** all the way. I suck @ typing so not going to spend next hour listing all parts . Alist is in this forum somewhere.All I'm sayin is that I tried to cut costs on things , now my car is broke cause of that.I don't really know what is a safe psi on stock. I just know what I have been thru.

 

9700 for a turbo'd stock f22? WOW!

 

not stock bro.

 

forged pistons with stock rods?

 

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u ran 15psi on 450cc of course it blew.... there are many people running 10 to 12 psi, you just have to have proper fuel mangement

 

well I was told by my programer to get 450cc inj. then when he told me that I was maxed out @ 15psi I wasn't happy. thats why I'm getting bigger.

oh and motor didn't blow, threw a rod . Two different things.
and yes stock rods wiseco pistons, stupid I know.


Modified by turboDerrick at 6:13 PM 12/21/2006

 

yea ur rod went through the block, so i would say it was a blown motor... doesn't matter how it happen

 

the dsm manifold will only fit the 90-93 f22 motors.. and that is only with some slight mods. that manifold WILL NOT fit the 94-97 motors