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need a set of tires for some 17x7.5 rota grid wheels

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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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a buddy of mine just purchased these wheels and he was looking to get a high performance all season tire he said he didn't want a summer tire cause he said he might ride the car with the wheels in snow. he said he wants a tire that could handle aggressive driving on the highway and that rides smooth and quite i'll let him know with what u guys recomend
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Might help if you tell us what car this is for. Also, you really don't want to be taking a honda with 17s in the snow.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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hes got a 91 civic hb and i told him that and h said it ain't all time in snow but people are hard headed so whatever its his problem i'm trying to help him out with the best tire choice i was thinking the kumho ast looks like a good aggresive performance tire just my 2cents
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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anybody got anything
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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i've searched and they say the asx is a better tire but then in the reviews i read people say the tires suck to get some bf g-force or pirelle pzero i mean what tire is good
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:32 AM
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does anybody got a answer
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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The Ecsta ASX is a good choice, cheap and performs reasonably well. It isn't the best idea to use big rims/tires in winter but to each his own.

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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thats what i told him i also told him to put 16" wheels but whatever. is it true that the pirelle zero's are better than the asx
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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according to the specs when i compared the asx with pzero nero the pzero is a better tire in all aspects so should i tell him to get the pzero or still get the asx?
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">according to the specs when i compared the asx with pzero nero the pzero is a better tire in all aspects so should i tell him to get the pzero or still get the asx?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What 'specs' are these?
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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go on to their site "tirerack" and compare both tires
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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'specs' is short for "specifications". In this case in encompasses quantitative things such as dimensions and weight.

The user reviews on tire rack are highly deceptive, they are just random opinions of average people. It is best to go off side by side independent testing tire rack sometimes does, magazines do these as well.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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All-season tires are a "compromise" tire for people who need to use the same tire in the snow and cold of winter as the rest of the year. They don't perform as well in winter as winter tires, and they don't perform as well the rest of the year as summer tires.

Tell your buddy that he is MUCH better off just using these new wheels for summer tires mid-March to mid-December, and using his old wheels for winter tires mid-December to mid-March.

If he still wants to use all-season tires all the time, that means he's looking for the compromise solution - in which case, the Kumho Ecsta ASX is about as good as you can get. While just a few other all-season tires (e.g. Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, and Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS) may be ever so slightly better than the ASX, they're a lot more expensive - and if he wants to spend that much more money for better performance, he should get separate sets of winter and summer tires as noted above.

If he buys the ASX before the end of the year, tell him not to forget to send for his $40 rebate from Kumho.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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i'll let him know and as far as summer tires what should i tell him
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'll let him know and as far as summer tires what should i tell him</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Kumho Ecsta SPT is a great combination of performance and value - very good dry traction, excellent in rain, last a long time (30-45K miles), and the price is incredibly low for such a good tire ($60/tire in 205/40-17 at the Tire Rack, less rebate). He can get even better performance, but only by getting a tire that will last about a third as long (Falken Azenis RT-615 for $93/tire) or by spending a lot more money (Goodyear F1 GS-D3, $125/tire). Unless he's a racer or autocrosser, he will probably be very happy with the SPT.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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i also told him that 17" wasn't the way to go. would that size affect anything as far as performance gas mileage ect
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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yes because it will cause more unsprung weight and might but probably won't take away to much from his gas...more of the issue would be the unsprung weight issue...
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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There are some significant disadvantages to such large wheels, but the performance differences are minimal. The biggest disadvantage is that, with such short sidewalls, the rims are susceptible to damage from hitting potholes and curbs.
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