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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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last night i was out racing and i kept having trouble getting the car into 2nd gear at high rpms. i let it cool down for a while, and then it went into gear, but grinded pretty badly, and then it started becoming more and more difficult to get the shifter out of 2nd gear. today i have to put body weight on it to let me outta gear. so i have been trying to just rev high in first and shift straight into third until i can take it to the dealer tomorrow morning. anyone else having this problem? could it just be a bent shift fork? any suggestions? i get on my car, so i already know that racing it isnt the best for it, but these trannies have had alot of problems, and i havent heard of anyone else with this one. lemme know guys
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Wtf i am sorry to hear that have you grinded 2cd before has it ever done this keep us updated.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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No offense, but it kinda sounds like you need to learn how to drive. i've driven the **** outta my car plenty of times and never had this problem. these trannies are built for racing/high rpm shifting... sounds more like driver error than faulty equipment..
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No offense, but it kinda sounds like you need to learn how to drive. i've driven the **** outta my car plenty of times and never had this problem. these trannies are built for racing/high rpm shifting... sounds more like driver error than faulty equipment..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't say I have heard this issue with a Honda either.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last night i was out racing and i kept having trouble getting the car into 2nd gear at high rpms. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Take it to the dealer to see if they can recreate it while racing at high revs. Just kidding. Had to say it since there have been so many posts about "dealers recreating the same scenario." Seriously, if you are having this issue in low-mid revs too, I would take it to the dealer and have them look at it.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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wow....i think ur tranny prolly gonna go soon they ways you drive(race). i can't say that i had the probs cuz i drives like a granny

i treats my car with respects
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rahxephon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow....i think ur tranny prolly gonna go soon they ways you drive(race). i can't say that i had the probs cuz i drives like a granny

i treats my car with respects </TD></TR></TABLE>

The only way to respect a Honda is to use Vtec. If you drive like a granny, have you ever used it?
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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I drove the **** out of my FG2. Never had one problem. Power shifted and all. Not the first time or the last going through the honda gearbox's.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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uhm these are the same transmissions that are in the ep3 and dc5, besides the different final drives. they are famous for having thier 2nd and 3rd gear synchros going out. hell in my 06 dc5 i have the problems already going into 2nd and third gear, and i dont power shift at all. i take it easy most of the time.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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i have had problems going into 2nd...but that was at the track...and it was because my seat was kinda too far...i learned that going to the track...you have to move your seat closer up than usual. buttt i never had any problems getting out of 2nd...and i agree with tre...driver error ftl.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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well thanks guys for trying to say im a horrible driver. but thats not it. i know how to drive. i may not be an expert, but im also not an amateur. i have never had this problem on any of the honda's ive owned before (95 turbo teg, 88crx si, 90 crx si, 92 civic ex, 99 accord v6 auto) and i understand that these trannies were built for high rpms, but why would it be shitting out on me while racing. and im not talking about shifting at 8k or 8200, im talking about 7500 or less. and the shifter going OUT of gear is at ANY rpm, usually low. but thanks for the input either way. i know how to drive, and with only 8300 miles on the car i really dont understand. alot of people are having problems with them, and i have heard a few say they got theirs replaced. so i dont know what the hell to say. this sucks
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swollen_cu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhm these are the same transmissions that are in the ep3 and dc5, besides the different final drives. they are famous for having thier 2nd and 3rd gear synchros going out. hell in my 06 dc5 i have the problems already going into 2nd and third gear, and i dont power shift at all. i take it easy most of the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

uhm they are different in more ways than just the final drive buddy.

Proof that "these" transmissions are FAMOUS for having their 2nd and 3rd gear syncro's fail??

Honda transmissions are built extremely solid from the ground up... the ONLY Honda trans' that are notorious for failure are the older odyssey units. other then that i've only seen transmissions have problems from : improper driving techniques or lack of regular maintenance.

Don't get me wrong, there are always going to be "lemon" transmissions but you cant seriously sit there and claim that any of Honda's recent gearbox's have problems with syncro's just blatantly failing.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and im not talking about shifting at 8k or 8200, im talking about 7500 or less. and the shifter going OUT of gear is at ANY rpm, usually low. but thanks for the input either way. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was kidding about the 3899 launch. ease out on the clutch when taking off, and after that dont take ur foot off the gas pedal.<FONT SIZE="4"> just slam the clutch down and shift very quickly while holding down the gas. <FONT COLOR="red">that isnt the best for the car</FONT>, but if u are at the track it will help keep u in constant vtec. </FONT>also, suspension will help. stiffer suspension will keep u on the ground more. and that time isnt that bad for just intake and header. definitely upgrade the tires first. easiest way to have a horrible launch is with crappy tires. just keep on working on ur launch and find out what is best for u. good luck and keep us posted</TD></TR></TABLE>

Although "power-shifting" can be an effective way of changing gears it can also cause some SERIOUS damage ...

With a basically STOCK car in street trim there is absolutely no reason to be shifting like that IMO.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si 4 Life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The only way to respect a Honda is to use Vtec. If you drive like a granny, have you ever used it? </TD></TR></TABLE>yea..its like caging the beast...you gotta let the beast out..don't its cool to drive like a granny sometimes but you gotta unleash the beast..
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swollen_cu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhm these are the same transmissions that are in the ep3 and dc5, besides the different final drives. they are famous for having thier 2nd and 3rd gear synchros going out. hell in my 06 dc5 i have the problems already going into 2nd and third gear, and i dont power shift at all. i take it easy most of the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>i have that problem sometimes..but mostly happens in the morning when its cold..then later its no problem
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:22 AM
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Well have the dealer fix it, and then if you think you caused to the problem, dont bring it back in when and if the same thing happens...

Also, heres a valuable tip people should know when taking stuff like that back to the dealer if it DOES happen again... avoid the word "AGAIN" when you bring it back, instead use "STILL" if you say "It's doing it again..." then they think you are causing it, but if you say "It's doing it still" then they think it was never fixed right. My friends WRX warranty was voided for that word misuse. Then again, he didnt know how to drive worth a crap, but hey... may as well play off a warranty for as long as possible.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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well it isnt doing it today. it stopped doing it as much last night, and is getting better. i dont know what was causing it. but i took it to the dealer this morning and the head of service drove it and he could feel what i was talking about, but said "we just need to monitor it. it's only got 8600 miles, so there is plenty of warranty left and room for us to watch it as it persists." he also said i will have to have honda inspect my seat since its so worn out and i've only had it for 5 months. so again, nothing got solved but it isnt too big of a deal because it isnt doing it so much as of now. if it is STILL doing it here in the next week or so i'll take it back to em
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last night i was out racing</TD></TR></TABLE>

I stopped reading after this.

If my tranny didn't blow up after Deals Gap.... than its user error on your part.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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when i say i was out racing, i ran my car 3 times in total. most people do this on a regular day while out screwing around. everyone runs their cars. there is a very good chance that it was driver error, but still with such low miles on the car it seems that the tranny would still be holding up. either way, the dealer knows of the problem and it on record now so if it continues to happen they have documentation on it. some have said the corsport shifter bushings and comptech ss have helped with their 3rd gear problems, so i'll see if it works out for me and what happens in the future. whatever happens is what happens.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friends WRX warranty was voided for that word misuse. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Sounded like he got stiffed by the stealership. There should be no difference on if you use the word "still" or "again".
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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That makes absolutely no sense at all. Sounded like he got stiffed by the stealership. There should be no difference on if you use the word "still" or "again".</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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It could be a pshycological thing. Its been proven that the way questions are worded can affect the answer dramaticlly. This could be the same thing basiclly just it is not a question.
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