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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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is anyone running 215/205 staggered Azenis? I was thinking of trying this out on FD RX7 wheels (16x8)

is there another stagger that would work better?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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8" wide? That's probably going to rub your inner wheelwell and rear control arm especially with 215's.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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I am sure there have been people who have run 215/45/16 Azenis and 16x8 FD RX7 wheels on thier type R's. You just have to run a 3mm spacer.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AbeFroeman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am sure there have been people who have run 215/45/16 Azenis and 16x8 FD RX7 wheels on thier type R's. You just have to run a 3mm spacer.</TD></TR></TABLE>


This is correct.

The staggered setup can work well if you haven't any other way to get more oversteer.

With the 205 in the rear, you might not need any spacers.

BUT the downside is that you won't be able to rotate tires front to rear. Which sucks on a street car, imho.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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yes.

running 205 tread width in the rear leaves a little less than a centimeter of clearance between the tire and the lower control arm. i'm running 205/50-15 ADVAN-032R's all around, and they just barely clear the rear lca's.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUT the downside is that you won't be able to rotate tires front to rear. Which sucks on a street car, imho.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, I have tokiko adjustable shocks and stock springs. My next mods will be GC coilovers and FD wheels. So with the coilovers there will maybe be enough oversteer to use 215/45/16 all around. Unless 225/45/16 Hankook z212's fit.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AbeFroeman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe be enough oversteer to use 215/45/16 all around. Unless 225/45/16 Hankook z212's fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even if they fit, the extra stickiness of the 215 Azenis will give you better performance than the extra 10 mm treadwidth of the 225 Hankook.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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I just checked it out. from the manufacturers sites, the treadwidth of the 215 Azenis is the same as the treadwidth of the 225 Hankooks
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AbeFroeman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just checked it out. from the manufacturers sites, the treadwidth of the 215 Azenis is the same as the treadwidth of the 225 Hankooks</TD></TR></TABLE>

doesnt surprise me, the azenis tend to measure wider than their competition.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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I plan on running stagger of 16x8 front and 16x7 rear on 215/45-16 azenis. I only have the front wheels as of now, it appears I will need a spacer to fit the tires on. Whats a good place to get a 3-5mm spacer?

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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plan on running stagger of 16x8 front and 16x7 rear on 215/45-16 azenis. I only have the front wheels as of now, it appears I will need a spacer to fit the tires on. Whats a good place to get a 3-5mm spacer?
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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I ran 215/40/17s on 7.5" wheels (+45 offset) without any problems and the car was lowered considerably. I'd say you'd get away with an 8" wheel if the offset was +40 or lower slightly.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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someone posted this a while back and I just happend to save the pictures.

I recall the OP saying there was no issues with rubbing running 8" wide.







btw these are 15x8 te37's
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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kind of OT, but does anyone have any suggestions on what tire sizes/dimensions are good (in regards to clearance issues) for use on 16" JDM ITR wheels?
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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For 7" wide wheels either OEM size 215/45/16 or if you cant get them 205/45/16, you'll have no problems with either
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I plan on running stagger of 16x8 front and 16x7 rear on 215/45-16 azenis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really don't think the staggered setup has any significant advantages, and it has the disadvantage of preventing rotation. But it's your car...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats a good place to get a 3-5mm spacer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

R&S.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For 7" wide wheels either OEM size 215/45/16 or if you cant get them 205/45/16, you'll have no problems with either</TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I really don't think the staggered setup has any significant advantages, and it has the disadvantage of preventing rotation. But it's your car...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I was thinking of going 15x7 in teh back but Id like to be able to rotate tire wear/use also (I can get tires mounted on the cheap).

Do you think rotation would be significantly better on the 15x7 205s vs 16x7 215s? This is for autox only.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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I seriously doubt a 205/40/16 Azenis will fit on a 8" wide wheel. The 215/45/16 will, but the 205/40 won't. If it does it will be so over-stretched it won't behave correctly.

Just run the 215 all the way around. Fix the rotation issues through chassis and suspension setup.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jetydosa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I was thinking of going 15x7 in teh back but Id like to be able to rotate tire wear/use also (I can get tires mounted on the cheap).

Do you think rotation would be significantly better on the 15x7 205s vs 16x7 215s? This is for autox only.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think I understand the question. Rotation is more of a "yes/no" question, rather than a "better/worse" question. For example, if the wheels or tires are different front vs rear, then you can't rotate them front to back without reversing whatever you were trying to achieve with the staggered setup.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I seriously doubt a 205/40/16 Azenis will fit on a 8" wide wheel. The 215/45/16 will, but the 205/40 won't. If it does it will be so over-stretched it won't behave correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

205/40-16 is too small for an Integra anyway (although it's the right size for older Civics).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just run the 215 all the way around. Fix the rotation issues through chassis and suspension setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't think I understand the question. Rotation is more of a "yes/no" question, rather than a "better/worse" question. For example, if the wheels or tires are different front vs rear, then you can't rotate them front to back without reversing whatever you were trying to achieve with the staggered setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, I was referring to car rotation (ie oversteer) as opposed to swapping tires and rims front to back
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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My bad...
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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thanks mugenracer
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