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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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I went to the dealership, asked for the GM syncromesh FM, they said for what car, I told them a Honda. they said no, i said cross ref the viscosity, they got all pissy, and came out with this, i only bought one, to make sure it was the right kind first.

Is it the right #s ? for a H tranny.
Any idea how many of these ill need?

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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Im curious also cause in honda 5 speed tranny's it calls for 10/30 motor oil
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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That's the right stuff. Don't know how many qts it takes, but for a b-series I have to buy 3, because it was like 2.1 qts.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Honda tranny calls for honda MTF. I used to use 10-30, I feel that the car shifts better using hondas fluid.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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use that **** works great
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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That's the right one, and you'll need 2 more bottles.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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penzoil syncromesh ftw
i rock it in my ek and it shifts alot smoother
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec4lyfe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">penzoil syncromesh ftw
i rock it in my ek and it shifts alot smoother</TD></TR></TABLE>royalpurple has a syncromesh also, and Ive heard good feedback about it
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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pennzoil is the same stuff as the gm brand and actually makes it for them you just pay more for their name on the bottle. If you have lsd you should use fm but use the regular synchromesh for open diffs.

To the op... you expect to goto the gm dealer and tell them to cross reference to a honda? I would be suprised if they could even do it. Honda uses their mtf and because of that it's not something you can find like the typical 80w90 that you can go buy anywhere that most other manual transmissions use. They want you to have to go back to the dealer and buy their parts.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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just tell them its for your corvette
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Tell them it's for your Viper... Viper use those fluid
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kista20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
To the op... you expect to goto the gm dealer and tell them to cross reference to a honda? I would be suprised if they could even do it. Honda uses their mtf and because of that it's not something you can find like the typical 80w90 that you can go buy anywhere that most other manual transmissions use. They want you to have to go back to the dealer and buy their parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for info above,

its a Honda & GM & Dodge dealership, so yeah i expected them to know.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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i used to work for penzoil and i still get the products at cost so i just buy them.^
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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#12377916. It's burned into my memory. That's the stuff you want. There are several variations, but that's the one with the friction modifier
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kista20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pennzoil is the same stuff as the gm brand and actually makes it for them you just pay more for their name on the bottle. If you have lsd you should use fm but use the regular synchromesh for open diffs.

To the op... you expect to goto the gm dealer and tell them to cross reference to a honda? I would be suprised if they could even do it. Honda uses their mtf and because of that it's not something you can find like the typical 80w90 that you can go buy anywhere that most other manual transmissions use. They want you to have to go back to the dealer and buy their parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is there any reason to this? jw.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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how much is it a quart?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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it was 12.78 for one qt.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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i put that in my b16 tranny, shifts seemed a little more clicky with that, but barely noticable difference.
Unless your having a problem with your tranny shifing, just stick with the honda fluid.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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is this safe for a d16y7 tranny?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was 12.78 for one qt.</TD></TR></TABLE>damn, anyone know how much the pennzoil or royalpurple syncromesh is a qt?
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondachris1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn, anyone know how much the pennzoil or royalpurple syncromesh is a qt?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it was 12.78 for one qt.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Dayum! I mean...if it works, then it works. And in that case..i'd pay it. But christ thats some expensive stuff.

As I say...gotta pay to play, haha
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thanks for info above,

its a Honda & GM & Dodge dealership, so yeah i expected them to know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry before you didn't say they had honda too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DFW &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is there any reason to this? jw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the friction modified helps when your running a clutch type lsd. I know on ford and chevy's if they have a locking rearend with a clutch type locker they reccommend a friction additive to be added in. Running regular synchromesh in a clutch type lsd would be too slippery for the clutches to work properly and you need the friction for them to operate properly. There are a lot of other threads on "synchromesh" if you search for it

there are 28 threads archived just in this forum alone and if you choose the box where it does all the forums it has 2 recent and 133 archived threads when you search for synchromesh.

Then if you search for syncromesh it has 1 recent thread and 84 archived ones.

synchromesh technically has an "h" in it but I'm not anyones english teacher.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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Default Syncromesh vs. Hondas MTF

OK, so a bone stock '99 EX sedan daily driver with 95k on the clock. Shifting has got a bit notchy with Redline MTL in it. Should we got back to Honda MTF or go regular Syncromesh?
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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regual syncromesh
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