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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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I have a Stock 2000 ITR Engine. I want to release much horsepower as possible without doing headers and cams and the whoel 9 yards. I was thinking converting my Oil System from a wet to a Dry Sump. I know its pricey but i was wondering how much whp would it release?

any you guys that done it.

Another question would i loose my a/c if i do it i dont have p/s anymore

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Releasing power and/or going faster with what you have?

Weight reduction
Dry Sump is another choice but cost to benefit ration isnt so hot.
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Pulling AC
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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It's not exactly a fart, it's hard to "release" power from a 100% stock powertrain.

Just go with a nice breathing setup. Nice header, exhaust, and intake. You'll notice a good difference.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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So let me get this straight.

You're willing to do a dry-sump oil system before you'd install an aftermarket header?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Yeah, I think you might be underestimating the cost and complexity of a dry-sump system. Even if it did free up power, the added weight would sort of negate that. The reasons for running a dry sump don't have much to do with making power.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I think you're looking for a NOS/Nitrous system!
That'll "release" some HP on a stock motor.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So let me get this straight.

You're willing to do a dry-sump oil system before you'd install an aftermarket header?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea wtf?
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Yes im willing to do a dry-sump system before adding a header. Everyone has done a header change, intake change, and why not something different that helps ut the longitivity of the motor. Yea it costs just much as a turbo kit but o well better oiling system. Well maybe if things go right later on down the road would be a turbo build.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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But why would your spend a couple grand on a better oiling method when you said you want to "release" some horsepower???

I/H/E...start there
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes im willing to do a dry-sump system before adding a header. Everyone has done a header change, intake change, and why not something different that helps ut the longitivity of the motor. Yea it costs just much as a turbo kit but o well better oiling system. Well maybe if things go right later on down the road would be a turbo build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i am pretty sure adding a after market header and exh wont harm longitivity anyhow.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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The C5 motor has HP???
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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do this and let me know how it works out

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1819581
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheOnlyBrooklynITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The C5 motor has HP??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

it actually has some hp but not enough torque to torque down some American car's lug nuts

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do this and let me know how it works out

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1819581</TD></TR></TABLE>

very nice..
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Thanks for the link to that Ryan... That's some interesting **** right there. Wish I had the bank to do something like that.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the link to that Ryan... That's some interesting **** right there. Wish I had the bank to do something like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"15-20whp"

That's a steaming load of bullcrap right there. I've got a tornado air intake i'll sell you.. and an "internal antenna" sticker for your cell phone..

If you could gain 10% more WHP for cheap on the car, and that means 10% more fuel economy and 10% less emissions, California would mandate it as required.

-Chris
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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15-20whp might be pushing it but its still interesting and Id like to see more testing results.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Since you seem dead-set on putting a dry-sump in as your method of gaining power, this thread should just be changed to "I want to dry-sump my ITR".
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"I want to dry-hump my ITR". </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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^Haha.

Have you considered going with some tigher gearing? It doesn't add power (Obviously), but it does make the car a whole lot faster.

ATS 4.928 Final Drive is great (Until you get on the highway). If 4.9FD is a bit too tight for you, you could go with a JDM ITR 4.785 Final Drive, which came in the JDM '98-'01 Integra Type-Rs.

Honestly, 4.9FD is a bit too tight for me, as I drive on the highway frequently. If I decide to go all motor, I'll be going with a 4.7FD.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^Haha.

Honestly, 4.9FD is a bit too tight for me, as I drive on the highway frequently. If I decide to go all motor, I'll be going with a 4.7FD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

I think the 4.7 is the farthest I would go on a daily driver that sees the highway once in awhile. 80 MPH = 4600-4700 RPM Has a nice little hum to it
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes im willing to do a dry-sump system before adding a header. Everyone has done a header change, intake change, and why not something different that helps ut the longitivity of the motor. Yea it costs just much as a turbo kit but o well better oiling system. Well maybe if things go right later on down the road would be a turbo build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, but why? Thats like me saying I want to go get breast implants just because I've never seen another guy with **** before.

Sure, you'll be different, but are you really spending your money where it needs to go in order to do what you want to do? No. You don't buy a dry sump system to make power. It's a very complex system, that from the sounds of, you have very little experience with, no offense intended.

I'm a little uneducated on dry-sump systems other than what they do, so can someone knowledgeable tell me how much an average system like this will cost?
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