i drive a 06 type-S stock and my friend has a 99 hatch he is goin to put an H22A into it and he said he will smoke me after he does wht does he need to beat me ,dat motor and what else

 

a 99 hatch with an h22 will scream. think horsepower to weight ratio...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by morenoup2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> wht does he need to beat me ,dat motor and what else </TD></TR></TABLE>

He will rape you like an elephant on a poodle.

 

bench racing FTW

 

h22 is overrated...he will not rape you..just race him and see...i think this is a perfect match up...wats your mods?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by morenoup2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i drive a 06 type-S stock </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shuSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 is overrated...he will not rape you..just race him and see...i think this is a perfect match up...wats you mods?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Come on man...read

You shouldn't get "raped" or whatever you want to call it...I would strongly consider modding your car and not waiting around. Because a built H22, will hurt a stock K20A2

 

Ive seen H22's w/ I/H/E in Ek's running mid 13's on street tires. Thats a pretty good amount faster than a high 14 that a RSX-s w/ a good driver does.

 

agree'd most H22a Hatchs are 13 second cars, RSX'S + bolt ons dont go that fast.. yet.

 

by the way..you have a k20Z1 not a K20A2.

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i dont think thats really tru because the k20 reacts VERY well to bolt ons, with I/H/E a K20Z1 with street tires can break into the high 13's . (w/ a decent driver)

but since your stock i think the hatch will smash...i raced a h22 EJ2 and it smashed me by like 2 cars

 

H22's are excelent engines. They have the hardest hitting vtecs. However the K20 is right up next to it in comparison. I often wodered how a DC5 w/h22 would do vs stock DC5 w/k20. I believe that would be a race to see. Anyway, weight makes a huge difference in regards to racing. Jut look at ITR's. Nothing realy all that special about the engine...low trq. However they are light and can beat preludes and DC5's stock for stock. Remember tho... our prelude engines (H22) dont respond as well to bolt ons as the K20. So if he just leaves it stock you might be able to take him with mods + tune.

Good luck

 

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Im sure the stock DC5 would crush another DC5 with a H22.....I believe the k20's make more torque, and the trannys are geared better.

 

Ha...you can believe it makes more trq if you want but it doesnt. The main reason the DC5 hold off against ludes is because of weight. RSX-S = 140 Trq vs Prelude = 156 Trq. This is due to our bigger displacement i think. However about the gearing I think your right on that.

 

depends on driver too, dont matter how fast the ek is, it has to have a good driver, i beat a ek wit h22a i/h/e, started from 1st gear roll, but he stayed at my back bumber the whole way, so it has to do wit driver too...

 

If it was a prelude ... it wouldnt even be a race. You would of beat him badly. However that definitly had to be a poor driver because you should of lost by atleast a car.

 

yes he was, i laughed at him because he was all talking ****, i thought i was goin to lose, he just needs to learn how to shift a little better and have a better reaction time to the honks, we had someone else honk in a diff car so it would be fair, but like a said, some people may have cars that are like putting down 200whp and run 15s the driver plays a big part also on how fast his car is not just the car

 

idk if this helps any but ive raced a gutted eg6 w/ a GSR swap + some bolt ons when my 06 was stock n i took it by a car... the h22 in that hatch mite make it a lil quicker but i dnt see him beating u by more than a car

 

he should be able to bet u by a couple of car so u better start upgrading ur car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectBB6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ha...you can believe it makes more trq if you want but it doesnt. The main reason the DC5 hold off against ludes is because of weight. RSX-S = 140 Trq vs Prelude = 156 Trq. This is due to our bigger displacement i think. However about the gearing I think your right on that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

See thats the funny thing too. Crank numbers dont mean crap. When you dyno say a k20a2 with a crap I/H/E and you dyno say an H22 with cams I/H/E new injectors blah blah blah.... your getting the H22 to come out with more torque, but only by a few ft lbs.

Heres a good example:

 

i now drive an 06 type-s but i had a 93 eg hatch h22 swap w/ i/e. my bro has an 05 type-s w/ cai/reflash and we raced from a dead stop and from a roll. from dead stop i was ahead from 1st and 2nd but he crept up in 3rd and we stayed bumper to bumper the whole time. from a roll we pretty much stayed even. but before that we raced when he was bone stock and i whaled on him pretty bad (3-4 cars). rsx's are SLOW in stock form. adding a cai and rh or reflash makes it a totally different car.

 

Exactly.

 

would love to see a stock K20 graph vs stock H22 graph. Anyone got one? all I know is this guy must have something besides his stock motor to beat this guy with H22. H22 is nothing to scoff at...dont be fooled

 

heres a stock 5th Gen prelude putting down 165 hp 138 trq. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1792253

 

how long does da trail last?

 

Heres a Stock H22

 

wheres the stock K20 graph?