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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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I've been hearing ppl recommending Hamp filter. But no one really explain the benefit over OEM.
Also, I've heard that all Honda filters are exchangable and heard that S2000 have the best flow. So is Hamp better then S2000 filter?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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Used to be that way. Now all OEM filters are made by FRAM. Even the S2k. If you've got the money, go Hamp
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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lol, advance auto purolater filter ftw! i think it's less than 3bucks. i change it every 3k miles. less than $10 for an oil change.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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i used to work at an oilchange and mostly all filters are made by fram and just shaped and printed with different names. i run a p109 on my b16b
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GloomyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been hearing ppl recommending Hamp filter. But no one really explain the benefit over OEM.
Also, I've heard that all Honda filters are exchangable and heard that S2000 have the best flow. So is Hamp better then S2000 filter?
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From my experience, 2 motors (d16, b18c1) with 100,000 and nothing but Fram filters, I would go with Fram. Affordable and readily available.

Oil change every 3k with castrol 5w30.

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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i work at a honda dealership and changing oil is my main job description. all hondas use the same cardboard based filters, except the s2000, which has no cardboard, but filters through metal screens. imo, just go with oem or a fram (are OEM really made by FRAM?), s2000 filter doesn't seem to have a point for daily driving, unless you drive one.

don't forget the 3.5 quarts of 5w30 oil on all 88-05 civics (non-si). 06's take 4 quarts (non si)
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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All oem honda filters in the usa are made by Honeywell, who makes fram. Technically they're not made by Fram

Personally i had heard all this bad **** about fram. On all my other cars i had always used fram filters and it was never an issue for me (i also changed a lot of oil on them cause i drive quite a bit.) When i got my latest civic I started using Purolator, then later Honda filters. Hearing first that purolator was better than fram, and later just getting around to getting honda filters not knowing they were made by honeywell. But I've been running those filters and Castrol syntec (now Redline synthetic) and my motor runs beautifully, and the 173k valvetrain is cleaner than you'd ever believe. So untill i can afford HAMP i'll stick with oem honda, aka honeywell.

Edit: I also go usually from 4000 to 4500 miles between oil changes.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Is 12 bucks for an oil filter really to expensive?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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thanks for all the reply.

but what makes HAMP filter more superior then OEM.

What is the PN for the S2000 filter? I hear there are lots of different part numbers for their filter.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rniederlando &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't forget the 3.5 quarts of 5w30 oil on all 88-05 civics (non-si). 06's take 4 quarts (non si)</TD></TR></TABLE>

my 99 SI takes the entire 4.whatever jug of 5w30 mobile 1 synthetic. i try doing 3.5 and it won't appear on the dipstick even after running it for a bit. i have to use the whole thing. my baby's a bit of a fatass
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16b-EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is 12 bucks for an oil filter really to expensive?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Compared to 4.00. Yes. Quite expensive.

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GloomyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but what makes HAMP filter more superior then OEM.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hamp is jdm OEM for type s and r lines.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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seriously, just go oem! The difference is so minimal that you want even notice it and you will be just wasting money for nothing! I run oem filters with Motul 5w40 and it run fine!
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seriously, just go oem! The difference is so minimal that you want even notice it!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i use the hamp but you are correct sir, im just **** and want to use the hamp filter. but the difference is probably marginal...
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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I am sure the Hamp is probably better but by how much? and is it worth it? I will have to try it!
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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the different between cheap filter and expensive filter is diaphram....the expensive filter has a diaphram between the metal plate in front and above the paper filter.....expensive filter or filter that cost more then 2 buck used these diaphram to hold oil in the filter....so the car wont have a dry start...without these diaphram between the filter and metal plate the oil will get suck back into the engine (engine vaccum) and the oil filter would be empty....causing a dry start which you dont want....hopefully this will clear things about cheap filter and the one that cost more....and when filter gets dirty the the oil just bypass the filter and just head back into the motor which causing wear and tear.......
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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"Hamp filters are designed to keep a more constant Oil Pressure, and raises oil pressure by about 5 psi. If you know JDM then you know this product needs no introduction. Hamp is Honda's Japanese aftermarket product "Hamp Synergy". The Hamp Synergy are set up after the Honda original parts products. These can be used on any Honda, but are specifically designed with Type Rs, and Type Ss in mind. Features to this item include a unique release valve that dynamically adjusts to the conditions within the filter to keep the flow and pressure constant. The HAMP oil filter will last longer and filter better than any other filter on the market. An item that is a definite must have for any B series or K series high performance high revving VTEC/iVTEC motors!" - jdmland.com

for hamp filters
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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"a unique release valve..."--hamp
I hope they aren't referring to the bypass valve most present and functional on almost every oil filter out there. Some work better than others, a metal springed one like the ones found on purolators, napa/wix are better than the button style of some. Then you have the ADBV (anti-drain back valve) that someone mentioned eariler, they're either made of nitrile rubber or silicone...the silicone resists heat a lot better and will not break down; it'll help keep more oil in your filter to help prevent dry starts where oil pressure is unstable for longer than necesarry upon startup.

I'd take a napa gold/wix filter over a HAMP filter. It has a thick gauge steel body for higher burst strength compared to stock, uses synthetically enhanced filtering media, consistent pleats, metal endcaps on filter media, a metal 'springed' bypass valve (not a button style that honeywell/fram uses), a silicone anti-drain back valve (adbv), and they are less expensive than HAMP filters; i get them by the dozen flat for about $4.30 each.

It is believed that the 15400-PCX-004 'S2000' filter is the same thing as a HAMP also i've seen pics of both cut out they look the same. they're both made by toyo-roki.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Ive been using the s2k filter on my b16 ever since honda switched to honeywell/fram filters


And yes they are made my toyo roki same as the hamp filters
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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btw, any of you use OEM honda filter wrench? Or just hand tighten?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GloomyX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw, any of you use OEM honda filter wrench? Or just hand tighten?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i use pliers to remove and hand tighten only.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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from what i hear and was shown is like a little button on the hamp filter inside. my man said that it keeps the oil pressure higher about 5% than the oem oil filters. But i have yet to use hamp oil filters, it doesnt matter to me i rather not spend more cash on oil filters. oem is good or wal mart brands as said above will do good. dont waste money
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Yep, this is THE filter! Toyo Roki (Japan) rocks!!!

A close second is the 'Purolator PureONE'...
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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K&N Performance Gold #1004

1" nut makes taking it off and putting it on a snap. beside oem id never use another filter.
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As Tony from Seinfeld said: Jerry, motor oil is the lifeblood of a car. Okay, you put in a low-grade oil, you could damage vital engine parts. Okay!!!


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