on n/a b20vtec?

 

i don't think it matters much..probably just a little weight difference and they cost around 400-1000 bucks a rod. good thing i didin't get it

 

the titanium rods r stronger

 

may be they are stronger (but i'm doubtful about that) but good stilll rods are strong enough to handle everything. the weigh difference between eagle titanum rod (335 gr) and corillo still rods (421 gr) is less than 100 grams, would it affect much the engine's characteristics?

 

i didn't notice that there are companies out there that makes really light weight pistons to go along with the TI rods....i wonder how that would turn out like...using the light aftermarket crankshafts and etc...for the internals

 

I highly doubt they are stronger--they are a bunch lighter though with proably equal or almost the strength of a forged steel rod.

 

their alot stronger

 

even in their light weight their stronger

 

the **** is a still rod?

 

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I thought he ment that they didn't move.

 

still = STEEL

Ti rods are not that much stronger than a good forged steel rod. If durabilty is even a thought, pass on the Ti rods.

 

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lmao

 

Titanium has the same strength as Steel, but offers it in a lighter package. Chromoly is stronger than steel, and lighter at the same time. The only benefit that titanium would offer over a steel rod is weight savings. Chromoly rods ftw. I have read about composite material used to make rods, possibly even kevlar which I believe is either 3 or 6 times stronger than steel and discoverd by accident.

 

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no. an equal piece of titanium next to an equal piece of 1020 tensile steel has no comparison. maybe what youre trying to say is, since titanium is so much lighter you can use a lot more material, possibly end up a little lighter with the same strength.

like this

l vs l weighting the same because the thick ti one is lighter, however niether will be stronger.

that is why titanium shoudlnt be used for anything where tensile strength is a factor.

look at how many road race bicycle frames you see made out of ti. now find a ti bmx frame made for someone older than 7.

ever seen the carbon kevlar valves?

 

Exactly what xDEFTONESx said, titanium is not stronger than steel--I know steel is hell of alot stiffer. Its just that titanium is a good bit lighter so more can be used while still being lighter than a steel rod. I think iron/steel is around 7.5 grams/cc, titanium is 4.5 grams/cc and I am positive aluminum is 2.7 grams/cc. When I used to race mountain bikes years ago, it was always regarded that titanium frames were some of the flexiest but had good shock absorbtion qualiities--aluminum frames (when using large tubing) were very stiff and gave a stiff ride, and a good steel frame was usually a bit heavier than both but gave a very good ride.

 

thats correct.
reference to deftones
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if you take a ultra light forged steel h22 rod 485grams or so
and you compare it to a titanium h22 rod that weighs 485 grams , that titanium rod will be alot beefier and where as the ultra light rod is goo only for all motor the titanium rod could be used for boost

 

Ti is stronger than steel. BUT, Ti dosen't bend or flex, it breaks. Steel flexes and stretches. You don't want a part that dosen't have a little give in a daily driver.

Example. If ti was lighter, stronger or as strong as steel why woulnd't they use them for roll cages in professional cars? Because it dosen't bent or stretch, it breaks..

 

high tensil strenth

 

dont they come as oem in the nsx
some of those guys make good boosted hp on them

 

Less tensile stress in boosted engines.

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Modified by Aquafina at 4:14 PM 12/16/2006

 

all thing considering this is the all motor forum and the Acura NSX is n/a from the factory. those rods a known for its strenth

 

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You sure about that? You sure the NSX con rods are 100% ti?

 

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Example. If ti was lighter, stronger or as strong as steel why woulnd't they use them for roll cages in professional cars? Because it dosen't bent or stretch, it breaks..</TD></TR></TABLE>


no no no no no, titanium is as soft as warm butter. it bends. it flexes. more so than steel . which is why the race teams that use them are coutning passes until they need to change them out.

pull up the melting point of ti and youll see how low it is as well.

 

Wrong.

Titanium is as strong as steel, but 45% lighter. It is 60% heavier than aluminum, but twice as strong
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Ti
Melting Point:1660oCBoiling Point:3287oC
Atomic Weight:47.90
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Steel melts at about 1300 C
It's boiling point is about 3000 C

 

I have a metallurgy book in my hands now....