Im about to purchase a Miller syncrowave 250dx from cyberweld.

The only prob is that it requires an 80 amp breaker.

I have 150 amp service in the house now, i was planning on using a current circuit that was used for my old dryer, 220v 30amp. So i obviously need to change it over, but do you think its safe to be using the tig and anything else in the house.

I know i could just run the welder, but would everything else need to be off, a/c, air compressor, etc etc. If i lived alone it would be cool, but im sure everyone else wont be happy to sit in the heat, or dark, or not be able to cook when im fabbing lol.

If anyone has this machine and is running it on a different size breaker please let me know, the person at cyber weld told me 80 amp.

 

i will be in your same situation soon. Im looking at getting the same welder and i an trying to figure out the same thing. I wonder how much it would cost to have a seperate service put in for the garage?

 

my dad said several thousand, ive been looking for shop space, but if i could get around it for a few more months id be much happier....an extra 1500 a month for shop space (and a few hundred for paying off the welder) will not be helpful when i only make 2500 a month after taxes with my full time job (not working on cars)

 

Wow! i thought it would be alot cheaper that that!! Hopefully some electricians will see this post and give us some good suggestions.

 

Have you thought about the Dynasty 200? I think it has lower requirements for the breaker

 

Straight from Millers website:

"Fortunately, the Dynasty 200 draws less than 16 amps at full output on 230V single-phase power."

http://www.millerwelds.com/edu....html

 

Damn, that's pretty good....16 amps at full output.

My Lincoln PT185 trips a 30 amp breaker at 135 amps on the machine. That's gonna have to be a factor I consider on my next TIG machine purchase.

 

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Just the money you save from not having to run the upgraded service could pay for the upgrade to the Dynasty.

I have a little TA185 in my garage but I pulled a 100A feed from my main to the garage (across the house) for the welder and some other stuff and it was $400ish in just parts (wire, subpanel, outlets). Biggest cost was the wire, I used 0 or 2ga alum for it, and it was 3/4 the cost of the job IIRC.

 

Don't just change the breaker out on your dryer circuit. The wire that runs to the dryer isn't big enough gauge for an 80 amp circuit. I would seriously consider a Dynasty if you can't afford to install the proper wiring for a Syncrowave. My Syncrowave has a dedicated 80amp breaker and 4 guage wire to the outlet.

 

Can you just get the syncrowave 200?
I think it draws 54 amps max, alot more reasonable.
Very affordable welder.
If you don't have at least 8 ga from panel, don't do it. (electrician said that was good for 60amps, and it works for the sync 200)

 

the electrician said the house is set up, running a #6 wire into the garage, setting up an 80amp breaker. Im good to go, they said its 100% fine.

 

Enjoy, nice welder.

 

I'm new to this, so I want to make sure I got this all. I was looking at the Lincoln Precision 225 or the Miller Syncrowave 200.

My garage is only setup with a 110 15-amp breaker. It is not going to be as simple as rewiring for 220 and upsizing the breaker.
I'm sure the line running to the garage is only a 14 or 12 ga. Which isn't going to hold 220 with an 80-amp breaker. I basically need a larger pipeline such as a 6 ga.

So bottom line, instead of paying the $1000+ to upgrade the power line, I could put the money into upgrading to a Invertec V205 or a Dynasty 200. I would be able to keep my existing 110 and just upgrade to a 30amp breaker.

Did I get that all right?

 

I ran around 80' of underground 6/3 wire from my house to my detatched garage a couple years ago. It wasn't fun but it wasn't all that bad. The wire cost me around $375 ( probably close to double that now)

If i had to do it now i would run aluminum wire to save on the cost.

 

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Yes.

Also my price above was using appropriate sized alum wire to save cost. Under a certain amperage you can't even use it.