Hey everyone,

Just giving my fellow ITR owners a heads up!

http://www.hondamarketplace.com/zerothread/1831568

 

Sick... Wish I was baller.

 

Those seats are still ugly to me.

USDM front seats FTW

 

they arent that bad, but people on ht ask a lot for em...for that price i rather have some SRDs...

good luck on the sale though...im sure yours will sell faster than the guy asking 2500 for his...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR640 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those seats are still ugly to me.

USDM front seats FTW</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol.. i think usdm and the red seats look exactly the same.
red seats are just red.
i am from canada. and ive seen few and look sick from outside

 

red is brutal, so hard to keep clean...

 

Thanks for the compliments

The reason people ask so much for them is that 1) They're <U>really</U> expensive to buy, and 2) They're the most rare ITR seat, even more so than the yellow recaro's.

I love the seats but my car is changing from a garage queen to a track *****. I need a bucket style seat to keep me in place. For the street they're dope! And not to mention (especially in the US) you'd be the ONLY one in your area with them. Definately a collectors item.

I don't know what else to say .... they've been taken care of meticulously and they're almost literally one of a kind.

I think my price is pretty fair on them considering what their MSRP is, and my price is flexible.

 

for the rareness factor

 

gotta give it to the honda execs who decided to make certain parts exclusive to certain regions of the world that sold the itr...even if its the same car in spirit anywhere you go in the world, left or right hand drive. it adds a great mystique to an already iconic rice mobile.

-canadian only all red seats on US-issue integra seats
-usdm red-stitching on US-issue integra seats
-usdm gunmetal 15 inch wheels
-15 inch jdm style UK itr wheels
-16 inch jdm/euro itr wheels
-ukdm red/white tail lights
-jdm, audm and euro spec front recaro seats(no recaros for north american market)
-jdm exclusive itr front end

im probably leaving some stuff out but just from the list above alone, it makes me wonder what/whom dictated which region will get what, which one wont and what they will share and why?. i want to know which bastard decided that the north-american market didnt need recaros upfront so i can slap him silly... they couldve atleast gave us usdm guys the damn yellow gauge cluster needles! FACK!

 

no more rare than the yellows cuz they're on the same continent... (same country for me)

and it's equally hard to keep black clean...

 

sick! keep it man those are ultra rare!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen-ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gotta give it to the honda execs who decided to make certain parts exclusive to certain regions of the world that sold the itr...even if its the same car in spirit anywhere you go in the world, left or right hand drive. it adds a great mystique to an already iconic rice mobile. </TD></TR></TABLE>True enough.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-ukdm red/white tail lights</TD></TR></TABLE>I think that was a local legislation issue(along with the fog light in bumper that the JDM's didn't get.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-jdm exclusive itr front end</TD></TR></TABLE>Apparently when Honda did market research they found that the US and European market didn't like the JDM look. How times change

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im probably leaving some stuff out but just from the list above alone, it makes me wonder what/whom dictated which region will get what, which one wont and what they will share and why?.</TD></TR></TABLE>Market research and costs I would imagine <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to know which bastard decided that the north-american market didnt need recaros upfront so i can slap him silly... they couldve atleast gave us usdm guys the damn yellow gauge cluster needles! FACK!</TD></TR></TABLE>Again the market research and costs. I strongly suspect that the Recaros were dropped from the US model because of cost in order to get the Type R under a certain price point the market would handle. The US spec seats were sourced in house and would have made a fair dent in the end cost. They were considered a fairly expensive car in Europe and Japan. From what I understand about the US market cars are generally cheaper and you can get flat out performance for a lot less money than in the European market. That might have frightened the bean counters trying to sell a plain ol' Honda in many peoples perceptions. Consider that in order to get away from that image Honda created Acura as a premier brand exclusively for the US. Same with Toyota and Lexus. Same car different badge, yet you can ask for more money. Marketing don't ya just love it. I had a conversation many moons ago with an American chap who insisted that Honda and Acura were different companies.

Some unkind souls have also suggested that the Recaros require the driver to be a somewhat scrawny type and there exists the perception abroad that some US customers may be a little more *ahem* padded in the **** department and that might have been a factor in changing the seats...

 

GL with that

That is not a completely unreasonable price that you're asking. Depends on the season but if you're patient, someone might bite.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by penpen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GL with that

That is not a completely unreasonable price that you're asking. Depends on the season but if you're patient, someone might bite. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the encouragement I've got all winter and spring to sell, so I'm not rushing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Apparently when Honda did market research they found that the US and European market didn't like the JDM look. How times change </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually it's the other way around; the 3rd gen Teg debuted in Japan with the same front as other markets, but after lukewarm response redesigned it in.. '95? Not sure when exactly.

About the Recaros: in addition to the *ahem* tight fit and the cost of the seats themselves, the design of the Recaros being substantially different from the normal Integra design probably would have required crash testing for approval by USDOT. I think that's a bigger reason than the actual seat cost; don't forget the cost to replace the ITR seats we do have, or even the other Teg seats, is quite expensive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 330R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually it's the other way around; the 3rd gen Teg debuted in Japan with the same front as other markets, but after lukewarm response redesigned it in.. '95? Not sure when exactly.</TD></TR></TABLE>Maybe I wasn't that clear(no ****, say you ), but yea I agree with you. The original 3rd gen had the four round lights in all markets. They redesigned the front in 95 in Japan and found through market research that the what has become the "JDM" look wasn't liked by markets outside of Japan.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About the Recaros: in addition to the *ahem* tight fit and the cost of the seats themselves, the design of the Recaros being substantially different from the normal Integra design probably would have required crash testing for approval by USDOT. I think that's a bigger reason than the actual seat cost; don't forget the cost to replace the ITR seats we do have, or even the other Teg seats, is quite expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>Good point on the crash test angle. So the USDM type R seats are just recovered standard Teg seats? You didn't get the titanium gear **** or the Momo steering wheel either if I remember correctly. Bloody hell, that's a bummer. In mitigation you got some nice colours and the customisers over there really pushed the boat out.

Just a thought, Honda went to the expense of getting them crash tested and type approved in Japan, Europe, Australia etc. Some of the Euro safety tests are mad. You would think a known quantity like Recaro would have been just as easy to get approved, given their high safety record over stock seats. I think if you put all the parts together that weren't on stock USDM Type R's I really think it was the bloody accountants screwed the pooch on this one.

 

Ah, I follow ya on the market research now. I wasn't aware that Honda had done research in markets outside Japan regarding the revised front.. although I could see American Honda saying, "it looks too much like the Accord!" I like the JDM front btw

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good point on the crash test angle. So the USDM type R seats are just recovered standard Teg seats? You didn't get the titanium gear **** or the Momo steering wheel either if I remember correctly. Bloody hell, that's a bummer. In mitigation you got some nice colours and the customisers over there really pushed the boat out.

Just a thought, Honda went to the expense of getting them crash tested and type approved in Japan, Europe, Australia etc. Some of the Euro safety tests are mad. You would think a known quantity like Recaro would have been just as easy to get approved, given their high safety record over stock seats. I think if you put all the parts together that weren't on stock USDM Type R's I really think it was the bloody accountants screwed the pooch on this one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, the US and Canadian ITRs have the same materials as the Recaros, but they cover the standard Integra cushions. No biggie, really, when you consider that the ITR was around $2000 to $2500 more than the GS-R, and what the differences were between them. We didn't get the titanium shift ****, but an aluminum one with a "titanium" finish. It's a nice piece, though. I'd love to have the Recaros, the Momo wheel (with SRS), the titanium **** and the other goodies, but considering we haven't seen any other Type-R here since, and the reasonable price difference above the GS-R, I'm happy.

Good point on the other markets' crash test standards; I forget they're not necessarily any less stringent, maybe more. I'm just thinking of how the US is such a ballbuster when it comes to importing the fun cars. I guess it's really.. well, guesswork as to why Acura didn't put Recaros in the R here. I guess since everything but the covers themselves are shared with the other models, that although the cost of purchasing everything at the parts counter would be mega $, it's not as much on the production side - not as much as the Recaros.

 

Hey Everyone,

Just letting everyone know that I've added all new pics to my thread, and have reduced the price. Click on the link and tell me what you think.

Thanks very much for looking.

 

Very clean! Good luck with the sale! Heck, I wish I could buy them just as a collectible

 

i can vouch for this guy...he is legit

but u should keep those seats bro....u will kick urself one day

 

Thanks for the vouch bro, it's appreciated

And yes, I don't deny the fact that I might kick myself in the *** for this later, but it's something I feel I need to do. I'm just going diffrent places with the R now and I wouldn't want to see these get trashed. I'll just let someone else enjoy them.

 

Sweet seats!!!

 

Costly, but they would look good! Good luck with the sale.

 

Seems like your pretty desperate to get rid of them. Lower your price or sell them to the highest bidder (if any).

 

Thanks for comments guys

SwiftType R: I'm not in the least bit desparate to get rid of them. To be honest, I've got about 6 months to sell them, and the price is not going any lower by any means. At that price, if they don't go, they don't go.