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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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ok so i finally got the best of the crankshaft pulley bolt after weeks of trying and 2 air ratchets later.......... but when putting the pulley back on i may have fucked sumthin up. While tightening, the small notch that was either on the pulley itself or the crank shaft has broken off, is this thing necessary? if so should i just by a whole new crankshaft pulley?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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just a shot in the dark but u did put the key back in right?can u get a pic up?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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i put back everything that was removed
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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WELL? can u tighten the pulley up ?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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yes i can tighten it up but theres a small piece of metal about 1/4" in size that has bent off, which looks like it helped in aiding you to line up pulley with crankshaft
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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hum?im trying to imigne what u did here.is the ppeice that broke off near the key area?i need little more details?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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try tighten it up and put alt. belt back on and try to start it.i would think as long as the pulley is tight it should be ok.or is that that bad your sceond guessing it?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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well motor is out of the car right now, but i found a picture of a pulley and the small notch im talking about
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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your talking about teh key way..or whatever its called..if you losted it..go get a new one...its a small piece of metal and u can loose it very easily if you dont keep track of where you put it..just go to honda and get a new one..im sure its not that expensive...
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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well he said he pout the key back in it.but thats what it looks like to me the spot for the crankpulley key.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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is thats the small ring behind the pulley? because i actually never took it off. the part that is broken is the smaaaall azz piece of metal the goes right in that slot.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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yea u should have like a washer type thing too then the pully put the key in that slot and tighten the crank pulley down.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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ok so that small piece of metal i talk about is call a key? or is the washer in back of the pulley called a key?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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That keyway is 3.00$ at a the honda dealer. It is necessary for your pulley, otherwise the pulley will NOT SPIN WITH YOUR CRANKSHAFT. It is used to lock the pulley onto the crankshaft, so they turn together. If the keyway is broken, then buy a new one. If the little part that it slides into on your crankshaft is crooked, widened, damaged, watever, then you MAY need to change your crankshaft. The passage that the keyway slides into on my CRX is widened at the beginning, but it still holds the keyway in place. If your passage on your pulley is damaged, then you may still be able to put it all together. If you can get some pics up of your Pulley where the keyway slides into, and one of your crankshaft with the same little notch, i could tell you if they are too far gone and need to be replaced or if you should just buy another keyway and put it back together.

Like i said the keyway passage on my CRX's crankshaft is widened, but it still works. But if it's only your keyway that is broken, you're in luck. it's 3$ in parts.

Oh and to avoid breaking the keyway, don't use air tools... Put the handbrake on and put the car in 5th gear and tighten it VERY hard BY HAND. It's how i tightened it, and it hasn't come off in over 2 months.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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how big is this key way were talking about?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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about same size as cam gear key
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Oh and to avoid breaking the keyway, don't use air tools... Put the handbrake on and put the car in 5th gear and tighten it VERY hard BY HAND. It's how i tightened it, and it hasn't come off in over 2 months.</TD></TR></TABLE>


holly **** your crazy i atleast hit it with a impact to tighten it.or atleast a tq. wrech
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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is it a tiny yhing big enough to fit on your finger tip? because if it is then you guys just saved me a heart attack!!
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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yea its bout that size.are small yea i would say u could fit it on your finger tip.its same size as that slot on pully
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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holy crap!! and the people of HT save the day again! thanks alot guys
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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thats what were here for.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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ok so i went to napa auto parts and asked for a "key Way" for a honda/acura motor and the guy gave me a bar of steel which i believe he called a "key stop" bar and its about the same width and girth as the key way but i would have to cut off the access amount of steel being that its about a foot long, should this work like the regular key way or is there sumthing special about it that i need to order it from honda specifically?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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WOODRUFF key

it's a rectangle about 1/8" wide by 1/2" long

you need it!!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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What you are talking about, I believe is the key itself. A woodruff key is also a term.

What it does is their is a slot or groove in the crankshaft and their is a slot in the pully. The woodruff key goes into the slot on the crankshaft and then you align the pully so that the keyway on the pully aligns with the key and keyway on the crankshaft. The hey should be as long as the keyway on the crankshaft allows, ending at flush to the pully. The key and keyway's are what keep's the crankshaft pully in the correct position relative to the crankshaft. It is not something you want to try to not have.

The part you got at NAPA will work just fine. Just cut the part so that it is just a piece long enough to go in the keyway on the crankshaft.

When you tighten the bolt which holds the pully onto the crankshaft, make sure you get the bolt as tight as the specification call's for. The bolt tightness is what keeps the pully from moving, slipping, shifting and a whole bunch of ugly thing's.

On my car, the only way I have found that work's is to pull the cover off of the flywheel access, get a 7mm hardened bolt and put the bolt in from the engine side of the flywheel, as far as it will tighten. Then turn the engine until the bolt sit's against the side of the flywheel cover, so that your engine will not turn, when you tighten the bolt. I have to use a long breaker bar and a 2 foot long piece of 1 1/2 inch steel pipe, to get enough leverage to tighten the bolt, properly. However, having done it only as tight as the brakes would hold the car, I will be making sure it's done solidly, so I don't have to deal with a crankshaft pully coming loose, or off, which I have had to do, previously.

Good Luck! You can do it!
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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ok thanks alot guys, i will definetly tighten that bitch up as far as a 5ft breaker bar allows me to do! "woodruff Key" huh? i learn sumthing every dam day!
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