I am looking at buying a 1991 civic hatchback standard model which come with a 4-speed manual transmission. I am planning to d a motor swap (SiR1 full conversion kit) and i know that this trans will bolt up to the b16 so i will use the trans. coming with it....is there any other things i wil need to buy? will the 5 speed bolt right in? Thanx guys and sorry if this is a dumb question im kinda a noob o this stuff

 

4 speed tranny WILL NOT bolt up to the B motor.

Use the B series tranny, hopefully you bought one with the motor.

 

Bone..

isnt there a spindle issue regarding those 4speed models
when the undergo a B series swap...

 

Yes, you will need an engine mount kit (I think most folks recommend the HAsport one) and a set of front hubs off of a DX or Si. You will also need a new set of axles, but I am not sure which ones you should use for this engine swap.

 

Ok thanx guys... sorry bone i ment to sa will not that threw off the entire question..but the axles and all come with the motor..i am buying it from hondamotorsonline.com

 

anyone know what is involved in swapping from 4 speed std to 5 speed si tranny.... i just traded my 5th gen for a 4th and have ALOT to learn. btw, i searched

 

I have never owned a std but arnt they pretty much the same as a HF swap?

 

my friend told me that my std. axles wouldn't work with a si 5spd tranny. is this true? and if so do i need hubs as well??

 

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only difference between the SI and the STD axles are the ends that go into the knuckles. The end that go into the tranny is the same.

 

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only difference between the SI and the STD axles are the ends that go into the knuckles. The end that go into the tranny is the same. </TD></TR></TABLE>

correct.........

if your not doing a B swap, or looking for better brakes, the STD/HF axles are fine.
The 4 speed and 5 speed trannys could care less.

1991 STD with DX engine/tranny, STD axles.

 

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isnt there a spindle issue regarding those 4speed models
when the undergo a B series swap...

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correct
when doing a Bseries swap on a STD or HF uneed to swap the knuckles for a Si or DX knuckles in order to use the B series axles unless u hybrid the outer CV casing into a B series axle.... but for the time/headche/and work involved u better off getting knuckles off another car...

 

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That is not true. If they supply the intermediate shaft, the axles that come with the motor will work. You will only need to replace them if they are damged. I know this because I ordered my b16 swap from them and I used the axles they provided.

In case they do arrive damaged, you can use 90-93 Integra axles.

 

I used the Sir axles they sent untill I killed them.