Hello...i got this setup:
b18c block with wiseco 12.8:1 cp and eagle i beam rods. toda light flywheel.
mild ported head by portflow, jge nitro coated valves (jge dual springs and retainers)
Blox intake ported and polished at runners and plenum by JGE also portmatched to a BDL 70mm throttle boddy.
the grearbox is from ITR
i am gonna tune it with crome , and i want to use it daily driven!
i know skunk2 pro2 are much bigger than blox B'
which one would u suggest for my setup?
where is each one better than the other?
reliability problems?
thank u

 

M22x or Blox B/S2S2.

 

From the research i've done, pro 2 are a bit too much for a daily driver(rough idle), I'd stick to the blox b's

 

do you think they are enough to procude a little more than 200whp with this setup and good tuning ? (the blox i mean)

 

My cousin dynoed 195whp on his type r with short ram intake, edelbrock header, greddy exhautst, with blox type b cams, so i think your setup should easily hit 200whp. Plus the blox cams are like half the price of sk2 pro 2.

 

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That's news to me and my S2 Pro 2 daily driver.

 

how can you tell blox type a from blox type b? what are there markings?

 

This is what i read in another thread a while back. Like i said, from the research i've done, some people complaining about the rough ideling, but i can only speak for blox b from experience that they have a fairly smooth idle without much tuning.

« Re: Skunk2 Pro+2 (jdm_ef9) « » 4:32 AM 9/12/2006 Reply Edit

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I respect alot of your opinions expecially DonF given that he is a guru when it comes to this ****. HOWEVER, you guys make it seem that it is very easy to idle there cams when truely its not. My buddy runs the pro 1's on his built gsr and getting them to idle properly, on a consistant basis(day in and day out) was a task in itself. I'm not saying it cannot be done however they are very tempremental. Maybe someone should do a writeup on how to idle skunk pro series cams.

 

Most cams with bigger than stock primary lobes require finesse to get a good idle. This does not preclude them from being good cams for a daily driven vehicle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most cams with bigger than stock primary lobes require finesse to get a good idle. This does not preclude them from being good cams for a daily driven vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most cams with bigger than stock primary lobes require finesse to get a good idle. This does not preclude them from being good cams for a daily driven vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Oh, so then with a really good tune, it isn't a problem to run pro-2 on a d.d. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

thanks for ur replies...i have a new set of blox bs so i m gonna use them for some months and whn i get bored i ll get a set ot skunk2 pro2 and try them...
should i loewr the cp with the blox b??
12,3-12.5??? wont 13:1 be too much for them ? should i use a cometic head gasket?

 

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Nope.

 

i heard that if a cam isnt that big (blox b tuner series) and u have too much cp for it then it wont be good at high rpms....it would be better if u have less cp...
also u with high cp u have to "cut" the ignition to avoid detonation...so better with less cp and higher advance.////
wrong??

 

I heard u should do some reading.

 

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The Blox B is actually a pretty good sized cam profile. Talk with Jeff @ Import Builders and ask him what his favorite cam profile is, he uses that profile in anything from mild street motors to 13+ c/r drag motors.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teri_vti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.it would be better if u have less cp...
also u with high cp u have to "cut" the ignition to avoid detonation...so better with less cp and higher advance.////
wrong??</TD></TR></TABLE>

No you are correct here. For example, if you are building a street motor and to be ran on pump gas, you're going to get a better tune out of a motor with 11.5 total c/r than a motor with 13.0 total c/r. The lower compression gives the tuner more room to actually work WITH the motor rather than working against it. Now if you're running C16 or the like, it's a different story.

 

aha, so its just that its more difficult to the tuner, if he is good he can achieve the best out of the 13 cp and probably get more hp and torgue than the other case (11.5cp ,more advance)....did i get it right? so it does worth to keep that hight cp and use an OEM honda head gasket...

 

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If you are using the proper fuel, yes. If you're gonna try to run 13:0 on pump gas, you're in for some trouble.

 

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That's news to me and my S2 Pro 2 daily driver. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Add me to the Skunk2 Pro2+ daily driver list.

I &lt;3 my cams.

Whoever says the Pro2+'s don't idle needs to find a more experienced tuner.

- Derek

 

yeah... if you cant make pro2's work then you need a new tuner

pro2 FTW

 

thanks...do u think crome is good enough to work with or may i need the s300??
and sth else, for the blox, where should i rev to and where should the vtec point be set??
i know i ll see it on dyno but i ask to get sth to start with...

 

Crome works flawlessly on my setup.