Today i went i got my new wheels put on (Group N) and used my stock si tires. yokohoma YK420 195/55/R15.. i came out of the shop all happy till my car started scraping every single little bump on the road.

This is really weired becuase i used the same wheel size and also the same tires, so how come its all of a sudden scarpin now. Another problem is that the back 2 tires are slammed you can't even fit your hand inbetween the tire and the fender liner. They jacked up the ghetto way, the shop jacked the car up in the front driver side first causing all the weight to go to the back tires. Should i just wait a couple weeks till the coilovers are settled or raise them back up tomorrow. One more thing, only the passenger side scapes for some reason, and also sits lower compare to the drivers side.

I have included a picture if needed. please help. Thanks in advance.

 

What is the width and offset on those wheels? Looks like they're sticking out a bit too far and probably scraping the outside edges on the fenders.

What suspension are you running, adjustable coilovers?

 

Wheels- 15X6.5 vs. Stock SI- 15X6
ksport coilover and its adjustable but why would it scarpe after having the coilover for over two months.. i had the car even lower, but rasied up alittle, it never scarped.

This is some weired **** i think i should leave the car to settle for a week or so.
Passenger side tire you can fit your hand inbetween tire and fender liner but passenger side front and two back ones you can't ever get a finger to fit in between, let alone a hand.

 

another pic.

 

It's scraping because the offsets are probably different.

 

so you think i should raise it up a little bit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1FORLIFE. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you think i should raise it up a little bit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, just slightly, otherwise you'll get more scrapping. And I know you don't want that.

 

i was driving 20MPh and i still scarped at a place that i use to drive 40+mph in my old set up. Thanks alot man.. i will wake up early tomorrow and rasie this **** tomorrow.

 

hey man one last question. if i want to raise the car i go towards 1 right.. just making sure.

 

If the rubbing is on the fender, get them rolled. We can't tell by the picture where the rubbing is.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1FORLIFE. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey man one last question. if i want to raise the car i go towards 1 right.. just making sure.
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Thread the bottom part of the strut body down

 

Take off one of the wheels and look for a number (maybe on the back side of one of the spokes) like "ET +40" or something like that. Compare that to the Si wheels and let us know. I'm betting your new wheels have a lower offset and therefore stick out more than the stock wheels.

 

Yeah, don't mess with 1 & 2 to alter ride-height (those are for adjusting pre-load). It's not like a standard coil-over sleeve. You have to loosen the third lower lock nut & unscrew the whole silver shock body a couple turns from the orange lower mount. This is where you adjust ride height...

One quick question: When you say the car is "scraping", do you mean that the chassis is hitting ground, or is the tire just rubbing against the wheel-well?

 

its either the lip or the chasis hitting the ground.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take off one of the wheels and look for a number (maybe on the back side of one of the spokes) like "ET +40" or something like that. Compare that to the Si wheels and let us know. I'm betting your new wheels have a lower offset and therefore stick out more than the stock wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the group n's have +40 offset. i will run down stairs and get the number for si stockies. Thanks for all the help guys.




Modified by EM1FORLIFE. at 10:00 AM 12/6/2006

 

Perhaps the tire guys messed with the setting on your coil-overs, or the springs have just finally settled. Either way I would raise the car up so the tire gap was even front/rear & left/right. That is why you bought height adjustable coil-overs after all...

PS: A +40 is very high & should pull the tire further in away from the fender...

 

Yeah I think the Si's should be +45, I'm pretty sure my GS-R wheels are also +45, and 15x6. I have 16x7 wheels and I think they are +40 and they don't rub at all with 205/45-16 tires on them. I don't know why yours is doing it.

 

Jack up the car, remove the lower bolt and turn the bottom piece of the struts to the right.

Full coilovers utilize the lower shock casing to raise and lower the vehicle. If you lower by compressing the spring, you'll increase tension and decrease the amount of spring travel available and have a higher chance of bottoming out. Always lower by using the lower casing of the coilovers.

 

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Try not to confuse him. He wants to "raise" the car, not "lower" it. The procedure is the same, just make sure your threading the lower mount further down...

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The O.P. is saying his car is scraping the ground, not rubbing the tires...

 

so now do i screw the lowest one towards the springs(2) or towards the bottom (1)

 

Red is a jam-nut that is locked against the blue lower mount. Loosen red a few turns toward yellow to allow blue to be adjusted. Now adjust the ride up by spinning blue away from yellow. Then spin red up against blue & tighten it good to lock blue in place. Repeat at all four corners of the car. Make sure both sides are adjusted the same from left to right...



It is my opinion that these types of coil-overs make ride-height adjustments very difficult. Since the spring is always pre-loaded, it becomes necessary to disconnect the shock from the lower control arm EVERY TIME you want to make a small adjustment (instead of simply spinning the shock body). This makes small adjustment like evening out ride height, a relentless task...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1FORLIFE. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so now do i screw the lowest one towards the springs(2) or towards the bottom (1)
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Screw towards the bottom. You're raising right? I almost forgot haha.

You see the orange lower casing near the bottom spinning nut? You'll want to spin that around to raise the car. Don't use the nuts that hold the spring in place. The lower casing is used to lower/raise the car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1FORLIFE. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so now do i screw the lowest one towards the springs(2) or towards the bottom (1)
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Screw towards the bottom. You're raising right? I almost forgot haha.

The lower casing(orange part) below the bottom nut(pictured and arrowed) is used to lower/raise the vehicle. You can spin it clockwise to lower the vehicle or counter-clockwise to raise the vehicle.

Its a pain(its almost like removing the entire strut just to alter height).

Some say you can just unbolt the strut tower bolts while the car is jacked up and the strut will hang out. Then you can just spin the strut to raise the car. I'm not sure if it will bend your control arms or not though so i'm not advocating that method.

The true and tried method is to remove the entire strut.


Modified by MyEG6 at 8:22 PM 12/6/2006

 

Stock Si wheels are 15x6 +45ET, you shouldn't rub with +40ET 15x6.5 with a 195/55. How much camber do you have?

I'm on 15x7 +45et and 205/50 ES100 and I dont rub on the fender lip or anything in the rear or front.

 

oh **** now i have a good understanding of it. Thanks alot guys.

 

hey guys should i be scraping.