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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Default FS:B-Series Equal length manifold Stainless Steel BRAND NEW!!

I have here is a B series manifold that has never been installed. Its equal length, stainless steel piece with an external wastegate flange. This was going to be on my hatch but im not putting the kit on it so selling it now.
You have to see it to appreciate it. Its nothing like those cheap SSAuto ones or any other replica. Awesome job on the welds and the insides have been deburred and ported to match the flange. It was cold so the haze is just condensation, this thing is like a miror. $350 +shipping takes it. Here are some pics:

you can call me at (585) 507-7467 Name is Ozer.

Here is a picture of it when i test fitted it on my b18c1. Fits perfect and the turbo does not hit the block.
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Here is an example of how this manifold looks installed. This is on a 96 hatch this local kid owns. He was pushing 375whp last time i talked to him. Again, same mani but this is NOT my mani or car.




I weight it on my bathroom scale which shows little under (im 168 but shows me 160) and its at 10lbs. Here are some pics.














Here is what a fake one looks like, notice the braces and the collector on mine



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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Bump. This is a quality piece. Someone really took their time welding it
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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ttt, this will look sick on someones B series
Old Dec 6, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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bump looks realy good.
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I really wanted to sell this to HT community before it goes on ebay. You wont be dissappointed with this manifold. Its not one piece tubes like the cheap ones. This is a heavy, quality piece. Bump!
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New pics added. ttt
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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who makes this??? The welds look machined welded...
Old Dec 13, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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The welds look to be hand made when you inspect it closely. Very nice piece. The inside is smooth also, looks almost like polished

Taking offers on it, need to get my new mani for the Mustang (yes a mustang lol)
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UPDATE!!
Just added some pics from this local car thats running the same manifold. Its on a 96 civic hatch.
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Added couple pics showing teh weight
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Will make a nice Christmass gift
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Man....I really hate to be the bearer of bad news. I mean, it isn't anyones fault, none of you guys tig weld or make manifolds obviously. I hate to break it to you though, those welds are absolute garbage. It's not a matter of IF that manifold will crack, it's certainly a matter of when and how many times.

Let me explain, so you guys can be on the same page. I know those welds look real pretty and consistent, but looks don't mean a damn thing. I mean honestly, if you hadn't posted close ups, I wouldn't have picked it up. It was just your very enthusiastic review of the welds that made we want to let you know what was up.

First, in this pic....if you look at the areas I've highlighted, you can see there was a weld beneath this bead. What appears to have been tig welded is actually what looks to be a mig weld (and a dirty one at that) that has been pulsed over by a TIG welder. The pulser basically modulates amperage in a high and low fashion, and in turn creates a very defined stack of dimes look. A very lightly trained non welder can produce these results with minimal practice on a machine set up for them. Another give away is the spacing between the "dimes"...it's MUCH too far apart to yeild any type of strong weld, plus the sunburst look with the peak in the middle is a dead giveaway it's a pulsed coverup.



The next pic is where the true problem is though. That last pic is merely pointing out fake, but what should basically still be a strong weld. These welds here though WILL crack, there isn't a doubt.

If you look at the yellow highlights I have made you'll see I've pointed out some very defined "pinholes", which is basically what they are. They aren't necessarilly through the material, but each and every one is a crack starting point. Heat it up and cool it down, and I promise you it'll crack from one of those. They are referred to as fish eyes and they are a major structural flaw.

The reason these appear to have occured is because these are actual TIG welds, but they look to be fusion welded only. That is why you can see the heat actually penetrated the flange...it's just that no filler was used. Basically it took some material from each side and made it one. Not wrong in some applications, but you see what happened here.

There is also a cheater cut from hell where the #2 and #3 runner enter the collector, but I didn't repost that pic.



O.P., I didn't do this hurt your chances of selling this item. I just think it is fair that everyone be informed of the quality of this piece. You should note the points I have made and attempt some type of recourse if possible instead of selling it. A full refund is certainly in order.

I will say this on your behalf though. If someone were to buy this manifold, considering the price, if the buyer invested another 100 bucks or so and had a TIG welder go over the trouble areas it'd probably hold up. Considering a manifold with this design sells for much more from a quality manufacturer or individual fabricator, this could work out for someone.


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great peice of info. And I thought about buying this. Something about a really shinny manifold just says disaster....money wasted.
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Well thanks fror that very informative reply. The "pin holes" dont really look like holes because i just inspected it up close with a flashlight. Its just the middle part of the weld that has darker color. I know it looks like that from the pics.
I spoke to a member thats on here who is running this same manifold and made "almost 400 whp @14lbs". I will not give out his name but i did tell him to make comments here.
Im not an expert on welds but this manifold looks to be built solid and if someone wants to take extra precaution and weld more braces on it, i have no doubt that it will last a long time making good HP.

Im not out to screw anyone on here by giving false information. Just to make that clear.
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No, no...lemme be clear I didn't mean they are truly pinholes...I know they aren't. They are called fisheye's. If someone buys this, that is the area that needs gone over. This WILL crack 100%, there is no question. I question if this mani didn't slip through QC, or if it was an earlier mani before some of the "budget" companies made changes to avoid chronic cracking problems.
Old Dec 24, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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I have already asked you to ask who ever it is that has this manifold what the name is.....If there are others with this manifold then why cant the vouch for you that it is durable...... Something seems fishy here.
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bump for a great manifold
i got this manifold on my DA and it works great
i make over 400whp with it
Old Dec 25, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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-whats the name of it??
-Is the car daily driven???
-how many miles is on the manifold with 400whp.
-whats the size of the turbo. I would be running somthing big.....GT35r range??
Old Dec 25, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Thanks Riceball777 for posting.

I cannot find the other local kid that is running this manifold. I only saw him once when he bought a part from me and we talked for a while.
The turbo kit i got was from Spark Racing, idk if they make the manifolds or buy them but it did come with quality, name brand pieces, not just some knock offs.
I will let Riceball777 answer about the use of his car and such.
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Did you get my offer GS-Rcivic. If everything is kool then I will take this off your hands tomm morning.



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