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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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My ABS modulator is bad in my '92 GSR. The shop wants $1000 for a new one. I haven't decided if I want to repleace it with a used one or to just leave it broken. Right now i've just pulled the two ABS fuses in the C-shaped fuse box right next to the ABS modulator (ABS1, ABS2 I think that's what they were labeled), just so I don't have to hear that thing constantly running.

Other than not having ABS is doing what I did going to hurt my car at all...or effect my braking performance at all??

Also, if I decide to leave it broken, I want to get rid of the ABS light on the dash. I was just going to take the bulb out of the gauge cluster...would that be fine or is there an easier way to get rid of the ABS light?

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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my abs light has been on for about 3 years now. My abs doesnt work, i pulled the code but don't have the funds to fix it at this point. Basically, if I brake hard, it locks up
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Yeah thats gonna be the story. No ABS means locked up brakes when stopping hard.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Your brakes will behave like conventional brakes. They are safe. ABS does not shorten stopping distances; it allows for steering control and a reduces chance of oversteer while braking.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your brakes will behave like conventional brakes. They are safe. ABS does not shorten stopping distances; it allows for steering control and a reduces chance of oversteer while braking.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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yes it is safe to drive. the light will always be on when the abs fuses are removed. removal of bulb will remedy your issue.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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You should be fine
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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that doesnt mean your brake is not going to work 100%, it's just your ABS will not work wirh your brake.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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get that **** fixed i totaled my teg this morning dec.3 my abs light was on and wasnt paying attention a car was in front i was going 50 and the brakes locked up and slid into her totaled my car but only put a few scratches on their damn KIA
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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i just took out everything to do with ABS off my buddies DA. cut all the wires out , took the unit out , all the lines. got an integra proportioning valve , ran a couple new lines , away you go.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 04:31 AM
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Thanks for all of the help. I think i'm just going to look for a used modulator at a junk yard...$1000 for a new one is just too expensive.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JWHATCH23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> get that **** fixed i totaled my teg this morning dec.3 my abs light was on and wasnt paying attention a car was in front i was going 50 and the brakes locked up and slid into her totaled my car but only put a few scratches on their damn KIA</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's your problem.

no ABS is perfectly fine... you just gotta re-learn your cars braking tendancies and how much pressure to allocate to your brake pedal for stopping effectively.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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http://www.honda-acura.net/for...10624

try this link...I know you have a 93...so im not exactly sure........I have a 95 and my car has this buzz........Ive been thinking about doing everything you stated....take out fuse and removed the light from cluster...but just been to lazy.....I may just fix that o ring and see if it works....if not...fuse and cluster bulb is coming out...
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your brakes will behave like conventional brakes. They are safe. ABS does not shorten stopping distances; it allows for steering control and a reduces chance of oversteer while braking.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ABS can shorten stopping distances drastically. When traveling, especially on wet roads, and in a panic situation--as alluded to by a previous poster--the natural tendency is to jump on the brakes. In a non-ABS equipped car, the brakes will lock and the car will slide with virtually no stopping power. But with an ABS equipped car, the brake system will avoid locking up the wheels, thereby giving a shorter stopping distance.

With a non-ABS car, you goal would be to press the brake pedal as hard as possible without locking the tires to acheive the shortest stopping distance. Which means you are staying somewhere below the lockup threshold which is somewhat below maximum braking efficiency. With ABS, you can go to the threshold and the system will regulate to keep you there.

ABS can give a driver a false since of security. It might not always save your ***. If your in a car that doesn't have ABS, drivers should adapt to the conditions and learn appropriate stopping distances. Case in point, ^^ the previous poster.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ABS can shorten stopping distances drastically. When traveling, especially on wet roads, and in a panic situation--as alluded to by a previous poster--the natural tendency is to jump on the brakes. In a non-ABS equipped car, the brakes will lock and the car will slide with virtually no stopping power. But with an ABS equipped car, the brake system will avoid locking up the wheels, thereby giving a shorter stopping distance.

With a non-ABS car, you goal would be to press the brake pedal as hard as possible without locking the tires to acheive the shortest stopping distance. Which means you are staying somewhere below the lockup threshold which is somewhat below maximum braking efficiency. With ABS, you can go to the threshold and the system will regulate to keep you there.

ABS can give a driver a false since of security. It might not always save your ***. If your in a car that doesn't have ABS, drivers should adapt to the conditions and learn appropriate stopping distances. Case in point, ^^ the previous poster.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shorter stopping distances and ABS is an open debate. Many people have the tendency to reduce braking force when the ABS pulses which lengthens the stopping distance. On a car with a balanced braking system, threshold braking will have a shorter distance than ABS. (You can still threshhold brake with ABS, but it is a fine balance.) The potential advantage of ABS for stopping distance arises on slippery surfaces where the front wheels will lock before the rear wheels on a vehicle balanced for dry conditions. On snow covered and gravel surfaces, ABS will increase your stopping distance because the wheels roll over the surface instead of plowing through it.

The bottom line is that ABS is designed to maintain steering ability while braking and reduce the tendency to oversteer, not reduce stopping distances. ABS can compensate for driver error to reduce stopping distance, but will not replace an experienced driver (i.e. one that doesn't have target fixation).
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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I went for over a year with disabled ABS and no bulb in the dashboard, just because I had a blown fuse and didn't know it. I didn't have any problems.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Exactly... it really is all in the driver. My teggy isn't equipped with ABS (the bulb in my cluster is becoming increasingly irritating) and I don't seem to have any trouble controlling my car. Except for the fact that my ebay Tein replica suspention throws me to the other side of the road once in a while... but that's a different subject lol
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