im about to supercharge my 2000 ITR with a jackson racing super charger.

i was just wondering what you all thought of this set up.
JRSC
Kamikaze header
mugen intake (how much do these cost?) or another if runs better
magnaflow high flow cat
custon 2.5in catback exaust
try to use stock muffler if possible

what do you all think? yes no changes here and there?

 

dont ruin the perfectly good motor the honda bestowed upon you with FI. NA>***

 

Where do you live? Your IATs might be a bit too high for your comfort... This is the reason I'm going with turbo as opposed to JRSC.

Mugen Intakes ARE NOT CHEAP. Honestly, I would just run a GSR AEM Short Ram Intake (The Throttle Body with the JRSC on ITR is relocated to the location of a GSR), it's not worth the extra many hundreds of dollars for those few extra horsepower on a JRSC system.

PM FastvtecCL, he has a nice JRSC setup on his ITR. He could give you some user insight into it.

You're going to lose quite a bit of power with that exhaust setup though... By the way, 2.5" piping back to stock ITR muffler sounds like complete ***... Or, if you like the sound of a weed wacker, I suppose it sounds good.

I know you like the look of the stock ITR muffler. But you have to pay to play, if you want the power, it's got to go.

 

definately look into the LHT intercooler/heatexchanger.

 

PM Mythias.... he is all knowing.

 

Yeah, don't ruin your motor with that JRSC set up. A buddy of mine had it on his 98 ITR, and it was very disappointing for the money spent.

When running the 1320, his times would just get worse, because that blower heated the **** out of his motor.

I was once considering this route, but after seeing the results , I'm glad I didn't.

NA all the way!

 

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now try.

 

STREETWERKZ... What exactly is the LHT Intercooler/Heat Exchanger? I've heard of it when I was researching up on Supercharging my R, but I never looked into it.

 

im with go-fight-kill. ive searched a little bit and looked at some threads but not enough info. can anyone tell me about the LHT intercooler/heat exchanger a little bit and where i might be able to purchase it?

 

http://www.LHTperformance.net

its a little pricey.... but its used on many 280-300whp builds.

 

the MUGEN intake is USELESS on a JRSC setup

you are much better off with an AEM shorty or J's Whale *****

im telling you this from my own JRSC experience

they are great when they run right, but when you start breaking belts or need the SC rebuilt it isnt much fun

 

is the LHT worth the money?

 

ask the people that own it.


they'll all say, yes. im sure of it.

 

Wow, looks to be WELL worth the money... Over 100degrees reduced? 25whp gained? I say it's WELL worth the asking price.

It takes a lot of stress off the engine, so I'd say in the long run, this would probably be the best bet with a JRSC setup... I may reconsider my turbo plans now, haha.

 

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you are much better off with an AEM shorty or J's Whale *****

im telling you this from my own JRSC experience

they are great when they run right, but when you start breaking belts or need the SC rebuilt it isnt much fun</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you explain this a little more in depth? Are you saying the Mugen intake is useless just because it's a hassle to do maintainence? I figured you'd want the most cold air as possible to feed to the JRSC, and I thought the Mugen intake would do this well. Wouldn't the short rams be sucking in hotter air since it is exposed in the bay?

I've got a JRSC and a short ram, I'm currently looking into getting a Comptech Icebox or fitting the stock box back in and running a scoop to suck cold air.

 

Or ya know, a quality turbo kit with a properly sized turbo would be more efficient

 

Been there.
Done that.

I'm not going to get into the whole SC vs. Snail debate but regarding your set-up...

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JRSC
Kamikaze header
mugen intake (how much do these cost?) or another if runs better
magnaflow high flow cat
custon 2.5in catback exaust
try to use stock muffler if possible

what do you all think? yes no changes here and there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would ditch the mugen and get yourself a used AEM 3" and hack it, you'll thank me later.

If you can get away with it, ditch the high flow cat and run a straight pipe.

3" exhaust from the 2.5" collector all the way back, that's what everyone I've talked to has told me. I've got the header and the cat in the garage, just waiting on a few things before it all goes in.

Ditch the stock muffler but do get yourself a resonator or two. That is... if you want to talk to on the phone or to a passenger while you are in the car.

You'll want 550cc injectors. I was at 90% duty cycle with my 440's and that was without header and exhaust @ 7psi.

What about engine management? I would not recommend boosting a stock ITR motor without solid engine management and a high flow fuel pump.

You can check out my set-up in my sig if you want btw.

As it has been mentioned, you should also contact Mythias, he knows his ****.

 

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I would ditch the mugen and get yourself a used AEM 3" and hack it, you'll thank me later.
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Can you explain this? Are you talking about getting an AEM 3" CAI and cutting it where? Since the TB is positioned lower then the stock TB location, are you talking about an AEM for the GSR or cutting up the ITR one?

I'm interested and curious.

 

wtf, i thought this was the itr forum??!!!11

you guys should be more knowledgable about this..... tisk tisk!

Anyway, properly tuned (hondata, neptune, crome, etc) you should have a reliable setup that'll get you anywhere from 220-270whp RELIABLY.

just go to http://www.theoldone.com and read the articles on supercharged itr's if you are in doubt.

Also, I'm sure our own archives and FAQ here have pretty much ALL of the information you're asking for (as it has been beaten to death many MANY times).

here's a short list of the best power adders/ complimenters for the jrsc'd itr:

-kamikaze header with 2.5" collector
-short ram with a K&N filter
-3" mandrel bent exhaust system
-chipped p28 or p72, p30, etc with crome/ hondata/ neptune
-TUNING TUNING TUNING
-LHT air/water intercooling kit mod

 

thanks for all of your help

what chip with system do you think would be the best?

and what would be the best intake? im leaning towards the comtech ice box intake full intake or the mugen?

Modified by gosu08 at 2:49 PM 12/4/2006


Modified by gosu08 at 2:53 PM 12/4/2006

 

just a plain CAI 3" in diameter will work.

no need for the comptech or mugen. concentrate more on the blower.

yes, the kamikaze header is good..... but the LHT header is designed for SC'd hondas. $ 400-500

 

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you are much better off with an AEM shorty or J's Whale *****

im telling you this from my own JRSC experience

they are great when they run right, but when you start breaking belts or need the SC rebuilt it isnt much fun</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you have used a mugen intake on a jrsc'd application and it was useless? if so, how can you justify your statement


Modified by Seedc2 at 6:51 PM 12/4/2006

 

the blower responds MUCH better to a short ram intake over the cold air intakes.

ive tried the AEM 3 inch CAI, the mugen, the stock box, and the stock intake arm with just a k and n.

i ended up just using the top piece of my AEM CAI and making it a short ram

made more power, better throttle response, and one less thing to worry about in heavy rain

on an NA setup, a cold air is great, on the the JRSC, it's pointless

my .02

 

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i agree.....

throttle response is great, and power should be higher due to the air not having to be sucked as far..... but with these cray heat generating JRSC's, i actually gained a little with a CAI.

i think the perfect setup would actually be a filter on the TB, with an LHT kit.

i ran my car the other night, a cool night, with a very short intake (basically 5 inch pipe) with a filter, and the hood off.....

car felt really responsive.

 

I'm making 246.1 WHP @ ONLY 5.5psi
Tuned with CROME
Stock internals, alot of externals
Making that power with a Mugen Twinloop restiricting me still