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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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I need to replace a crappy Northern Tool horizontal band saw with something more robust and accurate. I don't have a plasma cutter yet, so I'm still cutting plate with a die grinder. I was thinking that I could use a vertical bandsaw to cut plate along with the round stock and tubing I cut in the horizontal band saw now.

Before I buy, I wanted to see what those of you with more experience had to say.

I'd love to get a horizontal band saw and a plasma, but it's not in the budget right now.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Im trying to maked the same decision you are I cant decide ,but i think im gonna end up getting a vertical
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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What kind of material are you cutting ?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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He said he will be cutting up rc autowerks manifolds with it mainly
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr.NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He said he will be cutting up rc autowerks manifolds with it mainly </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol

I myself am purchasing a horizontal soon, cutting thicker stuff I feel is better for a horizontal. If you are cutting 16, 18 gauge a lot then a vertical is nice.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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there are pluses to either, i'd go with a vertical myself. i've cut some pretty heavy stuff on a vertical (12"x12"). i think there is more versatility with a vertical. either way you are going to have to spend about $2500-$3000 to get something decent.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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I'm not looking for something in that price range. I'm looking at Wilton vertical and horizonal band saws, $1k price range. I don't need something that'll run 100% duty cycle all day, every day.

I'll probably cut tubing and solid round stock, mostly more of the round stock as I do more work on the lathe than tubing right now, but that could change.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Horizontal is the way to go.

Not to sound like a dick, but do a search and you'll see a couple of threads with some great info on the horizontals. I've posted in a few of them because I was in the same boat as you.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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I use a chop saw for steel tubing and a vertical bandsaw for everything else. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Cutting plate and making brackets and stuff, gotta have a vert. saw.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use a chop saw for steel tubing and a vertical bandsaw for everything else. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Cutting plate and making brackets and stuff, gotta have a vert. saw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whens the last time you made a manifold out of sch10, or 40

Its where its at.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Exactly, no pipe here...
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Hear you smoke the pipe though...
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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I must not have been using the right terms. I tried to search under "band saw," but it kicked back saw and only used band. I looked at posts like "which band saw", "what band saw" etc. I didn't see any of your posts in the threads, though.

EDIT: nevermind, I found it. Doh... I overlooked the title.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Horizontal is the way to go.

Not to sound like a dick, but do a search and you'll see a couple of threads with some great info on the horizontals. I've posted in a few of them because I was in the same boat as you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hear you smoke the pipe though... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea with his fab skills I bet he could make some killer bongs haha
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr.NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yea with his fab skills I bet he could make some killer bongs haha</TD></TR></TABLE>

It would be one of the best free flowing, non restrictive bongs ever. I bet the people from burns could set up the proper angle for the best hits.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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i doubt tony is a burnout like the rest of us
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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I bought a horizontal and I love it. We have a very large vertical here at the shop that i have used alot too. They both have +'s but my 7x12 horizontal is much more versatile. It also has a fixture table to allow vertical use.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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legend....

how stable is your horizontal, with the verticle fixture on it? can you apply a good amount of pressure on the blade? or will it pop off ?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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You guys should look at the wilton 7x12 it is a great deal about $939. Has the ability to be use horizontal or vertical. Very well built saw for the money!
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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enco has 7x12's for 700

enco
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">legend....

how stable is your horizontal, with the vertical fixture on it? can you apply a good amount of pressure on the blade? or will it pop off ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the cheap harbor freight one, the blade angle went south and they don't have a bolt to adjust the main head to angle the blade, the point is, its perfect for vertical cuts, you can apply pressure, the only time the blade wants to pop off is when you start turning the piece while your cutting.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">enco has 7x12's for 700

enco </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, they are all pretty much the same, I'm looking at the grizzly unit because a guy I know uses it non stop and says it works well.
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1821440
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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ellis is just one of those saws that built a following why I have no idea. I honestly hear more people complain about them then I hear people have anything good to say. Ellis maybe popular because it really is one of the only saws you can get a mitering head on in that price range. And I should know I selling machining equipment all day long and I sell a lot of the big names including ellis!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGJDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ellis is just one of those saws that built a following why I have no idea. I honestly hear more people complain about them then I hear people have anything good to say. Ellis maybe popular because it really is one of the only saws you can get a mitering head on in that price range. And I should know I selling machining equipment all day long and I sell a lot of the big names including ellis!</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are the complains ?
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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That they have zero accuracy and repeatability, I also hear complaints from people of the blades jumping. Most of the time it comes back to overall construction of the saw.
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