HF start broken ??
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HF start broken ??
updated pics of circuit board.. look down a few posts.
hello all,
i was in the middle of welding something yesterday, i didnt do anything out of the ordinary. put my piece i was welding on my table, put my ground on the table.... i seemed to be getting alot of "electronic noise" out of either the welder or the radio in the shop. i didnt care as its happend in the past, with no ill effects. so i get done welding all the way around a tube, going to make a cap pass on it... my ****** welder "pops" and the HF start aint workin... it does "scratch" start though..... i just had this damn thing fixed last year with the HF start(300.00) and now its busted again.... (i have maybe 10-15 hrs on it since then, im not a full time welder, just do it when i have to.....)
can anyone point me in the right direction, as to what could possibly be wrong, and how i can stop this from happening again? does the welder need to have its own ground away from the other electricity in the building ?
the machine- miller 180-sd(older model, non digital display, has the *****)
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hello all,
i was in the middle of welding something yesterday, i didnt do anything out of the ordinary. put my piece i was welding on my table, put my ground on the table.... i seemed to be getting alot of "electronic noise" out of either the welder or the radio in the shop. i didnt care as its happend in the past, with no ill effects. so i get done welding all the way around a tube, going to make a cap pass on it... my ****** welder "pops" and the HF start aint workin... it does "scratch" start though..... i just had this damn thing fixed last year with the HF start(300.00) and now its busted again.... (i have maybe 10-15 hrs on it since then, im not a full time welder, just do it when i have to.....)
can anyone point me in the right direction, as to what could possibly be wrong, and how i can stop this from happening again? does the welder need to have its own ground away from the other electricity in the building ?
the machine- miller 180-sd(older model, non digital display, has the *****)
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Modified by dturbocivic at 10:56 AM 12/19/2006
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Re: HF start broken ?? (F20Cteg)
already dropped it off yesterday to be fixed. i dont know about welders and dont want to know haha.
i guess i can call miller to see what they sugest could have caused the hf to break twice within a year....
i guess i can call miller to see what they sugest could have caused the hf to break twice within a year....
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Re: HF start broken ?? (dturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">already dropped it off yesterday to be fixed. i dont know about welders and dont want to know haha.
i guess i can call miller to see what they sugest could have caused the hf to break twice within a year.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Adjusting the spark gap is easier than adjusting valve lash (especially on a b-series
). Same process too. You just use a feeler gauge in between the two pieces of tungsten.
i guess i can call miller to see what they sugest could have caused the hf to break twice within a year.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Adjusting the spark gap is easier than adjusting valve lash (especially on a b-series
). Same process too. You just use a feeler gauge in between the two pieces of tungsten.
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Re: HF start broken ?? (F20Cteg)
ok, so last friday i called the place where i drop off the welder, they didnt look at it up until that point......... how long has it been? 
yesterday, they finally looked at it, and something is blown off the backside of the circuit board.... (they told me its going to cost me 1008.00 to replace it.....)
does anyone think i can have this fixed at any electronic store? or ..... ??
yesterday, they finally looked at it, and something is blown off the backside of the circuit board.... (they told me its going to cost me 1008.00 to replace it.....)
does anyone think i can have this fixed at any electronic store? or ..... ??
Re: HF start broken ?? (dturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, so last friday i called the place where i drop off the welder, they didnt look at it up until that point......... how long has it been?
yesterday, they finally looked at it, and something is blown off the backside of the circuit board.... (they told me its going to cost me 1008.00 to replace it.....)
does anyone think i can have this fixed at any electronic store? or ..... ??
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It depends on how bad the board is actually hurt. If it took out alot of the traces or burnt through the board.. you will more than likely just want to get a new one.
yesterday, they finally looked at it, and something is blown off the backside of the circuit board.... (they told me its going to cost me 1008.00 to replace it.....)
does anyone think i can have this fixed at any electronic store? or ..... ??
</TD></TR></TABLE>
It depends on how bad the board is actually hurt. If it took out alot of the traces or burnt through the board.. you will more than likely just want to get a new one.
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Re: HF start broken ?? (k24em2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k24em2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$1000 seems kinda steep for a machine that only costs $2000 new. I'd call miller tech support and see what they have to say.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah that is steep , I would see how much you can get the board from miller for and just change it your self
Yeah that is steep , I would see how much you can get the board from miller for and just change it your self
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Re: HF start broken ?? (B18C1CYA)
Haha that welder is what I have too.
I have never had a problem with the older 180sd w/ no display.
I paid about that price too for mine.... $1000 w/ only a few hours on it.
I say not worth it.
I have never had a problem with the older 180sd w/ no display.
I paid about that price too for mine.... $1000 w/ only a few hours on it.
I say not worth it.
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okay if they will not have a replacement board for cheap, you can do this.... now i am not saying this is a great idea but you decide.
goto homedepot, or someone that has the welder you alread have. as long as they have a good return policy your set. Swap out the bad board with the good board into your unit, and take aback the new bought unit back, and get your refund/cash back.
i can't say i have never done this before.... 
goto homedepot, or someone that has the welder you alread have. as long as they have a good return policy your set. Swap out the bad board with the good board into your unit, and take aback the new bought unit back, and get your refund/cash back.
i can't say i have never done this before....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">werd call Miller
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yeah, call this guy for sure^^^^
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yeah, call this guy for sure^^^^
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dem0nk1d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay if they will not have a replacement board for cheap, you can do this.... now i am not saying this is a great idea but you decide.
goto homedepot, or someone that has the welder you alread have. as long as they have a good return policy your set. Swap out the bad board with the good board into your unit, and take aback the new bought unit back, and get your refund/cash back. i can't say i have never done this before.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ive done this with soo much ****, it makes me sick.
Its not like ur robbing anyone, they are both huge companyies that can take the hit.
goto homedepot, or someone that has the welder you alread have. as long as they have a good return policy your set. Swap out the bad board with the good board into your unit, and take aback the new bought unit back, and get your refund/cash back.
i can't say i have never done this before.... </TD></TR></TABLE>Ive done this with soo much ****, it makes me sick.
Its not like ur robbing anyone, they are both huge companyies that can take the hit.
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haha, and you guys wonder why insurance rates are bs...
i have a friends father looking at the board to see if he can fix it. if that turns out to not work, i will call miller.
i have a friends father looking at the board to see if he can fix it. if that turns out to not work, i will call miller.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tepid1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dave.... ever get it fixed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
not yet. i looked around online, and found a company out in minnesota i belive. http://www.parkergroupinc.com so i sent it out to them.. maybe wed or thursday of last week. hopefully they will be able to fix it for less than a grand. they are going to call me when they recieve/elvauate the board. ill keep you guys posted on what happens.
not yet. i looked around online, and found a company out in minnesota i belive. http://www.parkergroupinc.com so i sent it out to them.. maybe wed or thursday of last week. hopefully they will be able to fix it for less than a grand. they are going to call me when they recieve/elvauate the board. ill keep you guys posted on what happens.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just got a call from Parker group. 320.00 to fix it.... still cheaper than a new board.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats awesome, The company is located in Michigan btw! it says so on the website.
</TD></TR></TABLE>thats awesome, The company is located in Michigan btw! it says so on the website.
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thats awesome, The company is located in Michigan btw! it says so on the website. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i know (i had to send the board there )
ill be sure to post up when i recieive it back, and let everyone know the outcome
thats awesome, The company is located in Michigan btw! it says so on the website.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i know (i had to send the board there
) ill be sure to post up when i recieive it back, and let everyone know the outcome