i just purchased my ITR about a month and half ago... anyways my friend just opened up his shop so i took it there to get a dyno...

i was very disappointed with the numbers from my ITR... i dont know what STOCK ITRs put down but i was sure it was around 170whp..

anyways to get down to the point i dynoed at 158WHP and 118WTQ on the dynojet... GSR's dyno at 160-165 so they were confused on what the hell happend to my car.. this is also on a DYNOJET in 3rd gear

i will post the graph up later on.. i have a huge dip right before vtec

they want me to bring it back so they can tune the car.. is $450 a great price?
- ECU
- Conversion Harness
- DYNO tune 15-20 runs


Modified by bluek20a at 6:20 PM 11/28/2006

 

is your car stock b18c5?

or k20? like your screen name?

if it is a stock b18c5 that sounds about right give or take a couple hp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is your car stock b18c5?

or k20? like your screen name?

if it is a stock b18c5 that sounds about right give or take a couple hp</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes its a stock b18c5... i just bought a cheapie intake for the winter.. and after its over im purchasing an aem cai..

sorry me and my brother are using the same account... he has the k20a2 turdblow

but BACk to the point.. how come my friends gs-r's dynoed at 165 STOCK? and my other friend with a type r dynoed at 185 with just a cai

 

do a compression and leak down test...find out if it's healty...when was the last time you did a full tune-up?

 

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i did a compression test when i first purchased teh car.. i put out 205 on all 4.. i have not done a full tune up yet...

 

do that up and try it again...

 

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they want me to bring it back so they can tune the car.. is $450 a great price?
- ECU
- Conversion Harness
- DYNO tune 15-20 runs
</TD></TR></TABLE>


I think that $450 is cheap... much like you. Maybe someday you will learn your lesson. You should have bought the car straight from Jim instead of lowballin'. I guarentee you that the motor would have been right and if not, I am sure Jim or even Jeff and myself would help you out. Remember, you get what you pay for.

GSR's stock get 143-148whp, not 160-165. So, you should stop street racing because I imagine your tyte 5k launches can't be helping.


Sorry to any members other than the OP I may offend. This guy is a complete joke.

 

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they are charging me 450$ for a tune.. do you think that is a great price?

 

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they are charging me 450$ for a tune.. do you think that is a great price?</TD></TR></TABLE>

idk anything about tuning...but im talking about a tune up here; spark plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc.

 

I for one have never heard of a stock GSR putting down 160-165 whp. Those #s are more frequent in ITRs though. As for your buddies ITR with just a CAI putting down 185 whp, thats very high with a simply bolt on mod. Keep in mind every dyno is different. Only in a few instances have i ever heard of an ITR putting down 170 stock, thats on the higher end of the spectrum.

 

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This guy is a complete joke. </TD></TR></TABLE>

John, coming from someone as reputable as yourself i have a hard time not believing you. Hopefully we can spread some light on the OP.

 

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I think that $450 is cheap... much like you. Maybe someday you will learn your lesson. You should have bought the car straight from Jim instead of lowballin'. I guarentee you that the motor would have been right and if not, I am sure Jim or even Jeff and myself would help you out. Remember, you get what you pay for.

GSR's stock get 143-148whp, not 160-165. So, you should stop street racing because I imagine your tyte 5k launches can't be helping.


Sorry to any members other than the OP I may offend. This guy is a complete joke. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what are you talking about.. how did i lowball the car.. i did NOT know that JIM sold it to a second owner.. infact i thought JIM was the one who was trading the car in to get the denali.. i would NOT have purchased the car if i knwe it had a 2nd owner.. and who cares if i race my car? thats wat it is meant for.. and what is wrong with doing 5k launches? honestly its my car i can do whatever i please. and it was 3500 launches because the tires were worn out anyway and i just put on a new set.. and how am i the joke? just because i 1) race my car 2) launch at 5k? hahah

do i also loook like a complete fool. YOUR the one who tried to do a straight trade my STOCK ITR BOX for ur AEM CAI.. do i look like a freakin IDIOT?

 

Do tell everybody here what Jim's asking price was for the R and what you offered.

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who cares if i race my car? thats wat it is meant for.. and what is wrong with doing 5k launches? honestly its my car i can do whatever i please. and it was 3500 launches because the tires were worn out anyway and i just put on a new set.. and how am i the joke? just because i 1) race my car 2) launch at 5k? hahah </TD></TR></TABLE>


I rest my case...

 

Mah .02 FWIW. There is no way on even a dynojet (which reads higher than a mustang dyno) that your buddy got 185 with an intake. Maybe 172-5 but not 185. As for tuning, 450 is a good price. I personally paid $400 at LHT performance for a street and dyno tune. Also, I think your confusing WHP and BHP. WHP is what is measured at the wheels, say on a dyno. BHP is the engines HP output at the flywheel. Also, if you think your going to build 200 WHP for cheap NA, you'd better think again. Quality parts = better HP per part.

 

jim was said lowest he would go was 16,300 and i OFFERED HIM 15,800. and you tell me how much you can get a STOCK ITR for NEVER MODDED. (16000) and plus a friend of mine said jim told him he would go 15,500 which is why i called and ask.. but since JIM said that was false information i offered 15,800 as the highest bid.. and come on.. honestly this car has been BLOWN 2 TIMES.. if i had KNOWN that before i purchased the car i wouldnt have BOUGHT IT..

 

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YOUR the one who tried to do a straight trade my STOCK ITR BOX for ur AEM CAI.. do i look like a freakin IDIOT? </TD></TR></TABLE>

actually thats a pretty fair trade for both parties.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mah .02 FWIW. There is no way on even a dynojet (which reads higher than a mustang dyno) that your buddy got 185 with an intake. Maybe 172-5 but not 185. As for tuning, 450 is a good price. I personally paid $400 at LHT performance for a street and dyno tune. Also, I think your confusing WHP and BHP. WHP is what is measured at the wheels, say on a dyno. BHP is the engines HP output at the flywheel. Also, if you think your going to build 200 WHP for cheap NA, you'd better think again. Quality parts = better HP per part.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry for the confusion.. i know what the difference is.. but i think chuong(the owner) said his gsr put down around the same or a bit more.. im not sure i forgot. and some other guy that was there said he put down 160 on his gsr

 

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what are you talking about.. how did i lowball the car.. i did NOT know that JIM sold it to a second owner.. infact i thought JIM was the one who was trading the car in to get the denali.. i would NOT have purchased the car if i knwe it had a 2nd owner.. and who cares if i race my car? thats wat it is meant for.. and what is wrong with doing 5k launches? honestly its my car i can do whatever i please. and it was 3500 launches because the tires were worn out anyway and i just put on a new set.. and how am i the joke? just because i 1) race my car 2) launch at 5k? hahah

do i also loook like a complete fool. YOUR the one who tried to do a straight trade my STOCK ITR BOX for ur AEM CAI.. do i look like a freakin IDIOT? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dunno about the whole trade/deal thing but a couple of things to point out. Driving fast stop light to stop light is not racing. You wanna race, go to a few HPDE's and get your competition license and then you can race. It is your car and you can do whatever you please, that is true but good luck getting any support on this forum when your promoting street racing, it is heavily frowned upon. Another thing, what does a 2nd owner have to do with anything? You bought the car used so 1-5 owners it doesn't matter.

As for the stock air box for AEM CAI, that is a more than fair trade. Street value on a used AEM CAI is around 130-150 and a used ITR intake is about 100. You would have been getting the deal on that one IMO.

 

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actually thats a pretty fair trade for both parties. </TD></TR></TABLE>

honestly i do not think that is a fair trade.. its a genuine type r part.. but its alright because alot of other guys on HT is selling their aem cai for 100shipped..

PS: i do not mean to offend anyone here, i just wanted to get some simple information.. because i was told i should be puttin down around 170, and the fact that the people there said their gsrs are putting down more.. made me think if something was wrong with the motor, i just needed to clear that fact up, because i tried to search for stock itr dynoes but i did not find anything

 

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sorry for the confusion.. i know what the difference is.. but i think chuong(the owner) said his gsr put down around the same or a bit more.. im not sure i forgot. and some other guy that was there said he put down 160 on his gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is the same dyno, on the same day with back to back runs? Like mentioned every dyno is different, and different days means different conditions. I can believe a GS-R can put down 160, but not stock, not even on a DynoJet. GS-R's are rated at 172 BHP and an ITR is at 195 BHP.

 

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Dunno about the whole trade/deal thing but a couple of things to point out. Driving fast stop light to stop light is not racing. You wanna race, go to a few HPDE's and get your competition license and then you can race. It is your car and you can do whatever you please, that is true but good luck getting any support on this forum when your promoting street racing, it is heavily frowned upon. Another thing, what does a 2nd owner have to do with anything? You bought the car used so 1-5 owners it doesn't matter.

As for the stock air box for AEM CAI, that is a more than fair trade. Street value on a used AEM CAI is around 130-150 and a used ITR intake is about 100. You would have been getting the deal on that one IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

who said i raced from light to light? i only raced 1 CAR this whole time. are you guys saying that youve NEVER raced a car on the streets during this whole period of owning your car? honestly that is a total dumb reason for not gettin support on this forum.. who says i was promoting street racing? and the thing with the 2nd owner is .. no one knows him? and they dont kno what he had done to the car.. i would have purchased it from JIM but i didnt really care at that time to purchase another vehicle..

 

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who said i raced from light to light? i only raced 1 CAR this whole time. are you guys saying that youve NEVER raced a car on the streets during this whole period of owning your car? honestly that is a total dumb reason for not gettin support on this forum.. who says i was promoting street racing? and the thing with the 2nd owner is .. no one knows him? and they dont kno what he had done to the car.. i would have purchased it from JIM but i didnt really care at that time to purchase another vehicle..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was there a timer? A flag after a few hard laps? If so, that's great but I highly doubt it. As for the support thing, you just hang around for a bit and see what happens. In the years I've been here, I have heard of two guys dying from it and several others getting hurt. It's just stupid.

 

Our business was not part of this... I have something you wanted, you have something I wanted. I thought it was a fair trade, HOWEVER when you first come to me offerring $100, which is well under market value then a day later to offer $90? Please dude.


Sorry you bought a busted R... really. I bet looking back you wish you bought the R from Jim instead.... would have been cheaper in the long run.

 

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Well, if by "race" you mean "street race", then no, that's not what the car is meant for, and anyone that street races is a complete moron, a loser, and a huge joke. I sure hope you lose your license before you get someone killed.

 

...... unforutunately he just won't understand until he has been around long enough. Most don't, i didn't.....and i used to get pissy with others on this board at times. When it boils down to it though, "we" are right. Just relax dood, know when to admit you are wrong, and try to understand perhaps why we are giving you ****. Street racing is extremely dangerous, stupid, and will get you nothing or no where except a fat fine, and if you are lucky some jail time. We don't want to see you killed, and if giving you **** saves your life or at least gets you to stop street racing then we have served a purpose.