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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Now that I have 5.5k miles on the clock, I’m going to make the switch over to full synthetic motor oil (M1 5w-30 and M1 filter). While I have the car up in the air, I was also going to swap out the trans fluid. After researching the topic, I’ve narrowed down my synthetic replacement trans fluid options to two brands: Amsoil Syncromesh and Specialty Formulation MLT-P. Specialty Formulation is a new name for me, but I see that the RSX guys are seeing good results from it (i.e., smoother shifts, etc.).

Any feedback from guys or gals that have made the switch to either Amsoil Syncromesh or Specialty Formulation MLT-P would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racerEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now that I have 5.5k miles on the clock, I’m going to make the switch over to full synthetic motor oil (M1 5w-30 and M1 filter). While I have the car up in the air, I was also going to swap out the trans fluid. After researching the topic, I’ve narrowed down my synthetic replacement trans fluid options to two brands: Amsoil Syncromesh and Specialty Formulation MLT-P. Specialty Formulation is a new name for me, but I see that the RSX guys are seeing good results from it (i.e., smoother shifts, etc.).

Any feedback from guys or gals that have made the switch to either Amsoil Syncromesh or Specialty Formulation MLT-P would be greatly appreciated.
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totally unnecessary stick to Honda MTF
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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do NOT use anything besides honda tranny fluid.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rbf351 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do NOT use anything besides honda tranny fluid. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Take the advice of the guy would JUST bought this stuff today... ironically
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Take the advice of the guy would JUST bought this stuff today... ironically </TD></TR></TABLE>


if i could have gone with "better" fulid i would have, but nothing is better on a honda than honda tranny fluid. it will save you a **** load of headaches if you tranny takes a ****
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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As stated, stick with Honda MTF. I can KIND OF see why you'd run synthetic motor oil, but when it comes to trans fluid stick with the OE ****.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Okay, it's looking like I should stick with the Honda OE fluid. Is it true that Honda recently replaced their manual trans fluid with a new formulation? If I'm not mistaken, the AT fluid for my slush-box Accord is actually full or semi-synthetic. Is the Honda MT fluid organic or synthetic/semi-synthetic?

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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There is a new MTF but I'm still recieving the old style fluid--08798-9016 -- red cap. The new stuff --08798-9031(green label white cap) is a totally different part number and claims to lower friction, improve MPG, etc, etc.

You'll prob get the same 'ol MTF if you buy it now and honestly i doubt theres much of a difference between the new and the old. Either way stick with the OE MTF and you'll be fine

ATF-z1 is not synthetic based fluid
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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how long should u wait b4 changing tranny fluid or tranny flush?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Totally depends on climate/driving conditions... Safe side is 15k, average drivers will be fine with waiting for 30k miles. And its typically not a flush, just a drain and refill
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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From what I have read, Honda has overfilled the tranny. That seems to be the problem of the 3rd gear notchiness.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I have read, Honda has overfilled the tranny. That seems to be the problem of the 3rd gear notchiness.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did you read this? Its usually pretty difficult to over-fill a manual transmission but its possible ... post up more info if you've got it
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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get the new reformulated, upgraded Acura MTF...
that is if it is out...
i remember seeing the release info. on here some time ago.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Honda MTF is not a very good product. Honda is great at everything, but unfortunately they don't engineer their own fluids. This is basically motor oil with different EP/AW additives and brass deactivators.

I switched to Specialty Formulations' MTL-P in my FG2 last week, and the difference in shift feel is enormous. I never thought a fluid could get rid of the third-gear notchiness... but it did. It's a 75W85 lube, and is similar to Honda MTF's 11.5 CsT. It also contains brass deactivators for those of us with brass synchros. Which is pretty much everybody.

Get it. Don't hesitate. Or maybe you fancy the Redline or the Amsoil. Remember, the dealer cannot deny warranty service because you used non-Honda fluids, as addressed in the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.
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