Well, as the title says, some guy wants to trade his CBR600RR '04 for my 1G DSM, straight up, no cash involved.

I've been wanting to get a bike for some time now, and I wanted to start with something slower and older, because even if I know I have great self control and don't want to take things fast, it would be better to start with a slower machine overall.

The bike is worth much more than my car, the thing is that finding a Eclipse GSX is very hard in here.

So, would it be wise to go ahead with the trade? I know that if I get the bike, the first thing to do would buy all my gear and insurance, and I have a good friend of mine that has experience with them teach me how to drive it (There's no such thing as a MSF course in here).

The bike has low miles and the paint is a little scratched, from a couple of little falls. I'm taking a friend that is a bike mechanic to check it with me, nevertheless, to check for frame or engine damage.

Help me guys, I want a bike very bad and this is a great opportunity but I don't know if a 600RR would be way too much for a bike novice to handle.

 

You said drive a bike. You're not ready.

If you trade, sell it and buy something else.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said drive a bike. You're not ready.

If you trade, sell it and buy something else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1

 

for you nitpickers...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and I wanted to start with something slower and older, because even if I know I have great self control and don't want to take things fast, it would be better to start with a slower machine overall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is something a newbie should be saying...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know that if I get the bike, the first thing to do would buy all my gear and insurance, and I have a good friend of mine that has experience with them teach me how to drive it (There's no such thing as a MSF course in here). </TD></TR></TABLE>

yet again, the 'right' line of thought


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want a bike very bad and this is a great opportunity but I don't know if a 600RR would be way too much for a bike novice to handle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

and again! he shows that he doesnt think he is invincible

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said drive a bike. You're not ready.</TD></TR></TABLE>

did you see his location? perhaps english is not his first language?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you trade, sell it and buy something else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i will agree to that. sell the bike for a quick profit, then buy a cheap older 600 to learn on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said drive a bike. </TD></TR></TABLE> language barrier?

 

Some one doesn't get sarcasm....

I made a suggestion. It is a good one.

 

Most people here will say a modern 600 is too fast to learn on. I tend to agree, being a newbie myself. But honestly, it would be pretty hard to pass up that deal. Do you have access to a smaller bike you can learn on?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ragnaroek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will agree to that. sell the bike for a quick profit, then buy a cheap older 600 to learn on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But probably the best idea.

 

"A couple of little falls?"

How do you know the guy who owns the bike? Is it legit? Do you know if the bike is stolen?

 

Sorry for the "drive" thing. In spanish it applies to both cars and bikes, I must've been thinking in something else

I will go check the bike througly, to see if everything is in order. If it is, I think I will go through the deal, and see if I can sell it for a little profit and buy an older 600 or 400 and have a little left.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"A couple of little falls?"

How do you know the guy who owns the bike? Is it legit? Do you know if the bike is stolen?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He posts in a local forum I'm part of, also we have many friends in common. The bike is legit, with plates and all the import documentation.

According to a friend, the bike is scratched from a couple falls in his own parking garage, and in his street, nothing too serious. But like I said, I will bring a bike mechanic to check the frame for damage.

I'm really being cautious with all the details, because it sounds like a good deal, but we all know the saying "If it's too good to be true..."

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for the "drive" thing. In spanish it applies to both cars and bikes, I must've been thinking in something else </TD></TR></TABLE>
No worries about translation...we're a bit jaded from some of the idiots who come onto HT and brag about being able to handle 400hp cars and wanting to 'drive' bikes now.

FWIW, the same translation in Mandarin would have me saying "I want to open bike."

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He posts in a local forum I'm part of, also we have many friends in common. The bike is legit, with plates and all the import documentation.

According to a friend, the bike is scratched from a couple falls in his own parking garage, and in his street, nothing too serious. But like I said, I will bring a bike mechanic to check the frame for damage.

I'm really being cautious with all the details, because it sounds like a good deal, but we all know the saying "If it's too good to be true..." </TD></TR></TABLE>
At least it seems kinda legit. Most people who contribute on a forum are not out to screw other people over, but that's not to say it has not happened before. I hope it works out for you, because Honda &gt; DSM anyday.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No worries about translation...we're a bit jaded from some of the idiots who come onto HT and brag about being able to handle 400hp cars and wanting to 'drive' bikes now.

FWIW, the same translation in Mandarin would have me saying "I want to open bike."</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I've been reading this forum for a long time...but I forgot the "drive" thing because I was thinking in spanish at the time

I have experience with driving karts, and formula cars, but I know bikes are a whole different experience. Even I didn't started driving a Formula Ford 2000, so I know that in bikes the learning curve is higher.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At least it seems kinda legit. Most people who contribute on a forum are not out to screw other people over, but that's not to say it has not happened before. I hope it works out for you, because Honda &gt; DSM anyday. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, the full story is that he has a Mitsu Colt, and he swapped in a 4G63 and the whole AWD tranny into it (It originally comes with a 1.8 NA engine and FWD) with lots of mods (Shep tranny, GT35, etc, etc, etc) and runs 11's-10's. But the Colt platform is not enough so he wants a 1G DSM so he can transplant the built engine and drivetrain to the Eclipse to be like Shepard or something like that. AWD DSM's are very, very hard to find in here, and he has lots of money, and he read that I was looking to get a bike and he offered me the trade.

Thanks for the advice so far people, keep the comments coming

 

Almost everyone drops there first bike, if the bike already has little imprefections I would say keep it. The bike is pretty fast, but you can ride a fast bike slow and have room to grow. Personally I see no reason to sell the bike for an older bike becuase after about 3000 miles (if not less) you will be kicking yourself wishing you kept it.


Let us know what you end up doing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowB16si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Almost everyone drops there first bike, if the bike already has little imprefections I would say keep it. The bike is pretty fast, but you can ride a fast bike slow and have room to grow. Personally I see no reason to sell the bike for an older bike becuase after about 3000 miles (if not less) you will be kicking yourself wishing you kept it.


Let us know what you end up doing </TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is the problem with that. You can ride a fast bike slow but it will most likely take you much longer to learn to ride the fast bike than some one that started out on something that is much more forgiving.

I own an RC51. I've been riding for about 8 years or so, and I'm thinking about trying to find a used sv650 this summer so I can do track days and possibly race. I'm not going to be kicking myself 3 months later because I didn't buy a bigger track bike.

If you want to listen to that mentality, go buy a gsxr1000 and good luck not getting killed.

 

I saw your talon...take the trade and run LoL

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm not going to be kicking myself 3 months later because I didn't buy a bigger track bike.

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Your line of reasoning applies 100% to a track only bike where you will be riding at the limit but when it comes to a street bike, I don't think you can apply that line of logic.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is the problem with that. You can ride a fast bike slow but it will most likely take you much longer to learn to ride the fast bike than some one that started out on something that is much more forgiving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly what I've been thinking...the learning curve should be much higher on a newer sport bike than an older one.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokenLimits &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw your talon...take the trade and run LoL</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL where did you saw it?

That's one of the reasons I want to do the trade...get the bike, put it for sale, and meanwhile try to learn how to ride it...if somebody appears interested, sell and buy older bike, but in the meantime continue to ride the RR.

Let's see how it goes, I told the guy to hold for a couple weeks while I finish classes so I can learn how to ride in the vacations...

 

Yes, thats a good trade for sure.

As long as there are no problems with the bike, never been dropped, regular oil c hanges, etc..

Even in the end, if you wind up feeling the bike's not for you...you can turn around and sell it and you'll have made a profit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC51WV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.

If you want to listen to that mentality, go buy a gsxr1000 and good luck not getting killed.</TD></TR></TABLE>


nowhere in this thread does it say anything about a gsxr1000, its a 600rr for trade. And there is a big difference between learning on a 600 and a 1000, I learned on a 600 and so have most of my friends, you just have to be smart and not get over your head. Thanks for being a smartass though

 

Leo I know you love your DSM. Do what ya want though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigDisarray &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Leo I know you love your DSM. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I also love my GF, but that doesn't impede me from trading her too

Well guys, it seems I will go ahead with the trade...I will contact the guy to try to arrange a date to check the bike (Along with my friend which has 4-5 years riding sport bikes that will check her for me). If the bike is ok, then it's time for trying on gear and learn slowly

Thanks for all your comments.

 

I'm feeling so shitty right now. I've just talked to the guy, and he decided to not go ahead with the trade, because some of his closest friends bought bikes and now he got the fever again.

So, no bike for me at the moments. I was already so excited. What a letdown.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Starscream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm feeling so shitty right now. I've just talked to the guy, and he decided to not go ahead with the trade, because some of his closest friends bought bikes and now he got the fever again.

So, no bike for me at the moments. I was already so excited. What a letdown. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That sucks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Big time. I'm thinking about buying getting a little cash I have, and buying a scooter or cheap small bike, just for daily driving, because I can't support traffic anymore. It won't be a sportbike, but oh well...

 

you really have to jump on deals like that... the day he offered.... i would have been switching ownerships... not asking for advice on a forum. Ohwell maybe it wasnt meant to be.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Freeltec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you really have to jump on deals like that... the day he offered.... i would have been switching ownerships... not asking for advice on a forum. Ohwell maybe it wasnt meant to be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The thing is that the guy wasn't on town when he offered me the deal, and when he arrived, he had already changed his mind, even though I had already told him that we would go ahead with the trade.

Oh well, I guess I shall begin looking for a 250 or 400 cheap bike to learn in time, if such an opportunity arises again