I've been doing minor repairs, mods and body work (god damn winter!) for the last few months on my 93 SR. And finally i decided i have to do something with the ABS, it doesnt work anyway and i thougt it might be a way to shed some pounds from this fat bitch. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried to do it and has some tips, reccomends not doing it, or maybe some other suggestion. I did some google searchs and a searched the board with no results. The closest thing i found was getting the ABS codes by sticking a paper clip in some blue plug behind the CD player.

 

There's a thread on this, I can't remember exactly where, but its somewhere in the depths of H-T. If you search hard enough, you just might find it. Or hope for some saint to give it to you.

 

basically you replace all the lines from a base model 4th gen

then you can remove any abs related stuff

you do realize replacing all the lines is not as easy as it sounds

 

Use the search words 'removal' and 'removing'.

Here the 'how to remove your ABS' thread-->https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1347569

 

why would you remove your ABS? I know it saves weight but is it worth the risk of losing control of your car and crashing? I highly doubt that your driving skill is so good that you won't lock up your brakes in an emergency and if you are that good of a driver, then more power to you and take off the ABS asap!. yes, the ABS is pretty pointless 99% of the time you are driving but for that 1 time you need it, it will probably save you from crashing into a car/wall/person..etc. If i were you, i would definetly get the ABS fixed instead of taking it out.

 

i have pretty much all the parts you would need to do the conversion to non-abs for sale. 150 dollars plus shipping

 

does anyone know how to make the 4ws still work after removing the ABS?
because i know for a fact the 4ws will not work after pulling both ABS fuses

 

I wonder if its just that the 4ws system is tied to those fuses, and not to the abs system...

Try just taking out the abs bulb and leaving those fuses in.....

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You don't have to be a 'good' driver to not lock the brakes up when in a situation like that without ABS, people have been doing that for years. You just have to know to not jam on the pedal like a caveman/girl/idiot

 

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Ha Ha that is funny, of all the accords and civics that you see on the road most dont have ABS and they are not slamming into trees all day long. I have looked into it and decided that even if I could not get my ABS to work it was still easier to just leave it in and take out the bulb (30 min job). There is a crapton of info on H-T and what you need to remove the system, but off the top of my head it is non ABS brake master cylinder, brake booster, and front brake lines. Now go out to your car, open the hood, and tell me what you have in the way of making that job easy. (Hint: It has a valve cover and four cylinders)

 

Yea it is extremely hard to take out ABS with the engine in....you could pull the intake manifold to get some extra room....

You need:
master cylinder/brake booster
lines to proportioning valve
proportioning valve
lines to both front brakes

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bb4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder if its just that the 4ws system is tied to those fuses, and not to the abs system...

Try just taking out the abs bulb and leaving those fuses in.....

You don't have to be a 'good' driver to not lock the brakes up when in a situation like that without ABS, people have been doing that for years. You just have to know to not jam on the pedal like a caveman/girl/idiot</TD></TR></TABLE>

before engineers designed a working ABS, no car in the world had it and ppl were not crashing into everything. Think about this scenario real quick: you are driving normal speed on the freeway on a rainy night and you are pretty tired so you don't exactly have your full attention on your driving. Out of nowhere, the car in front of you crashes and causes a pile up. while going about 70mph, and at the instant...you are telling me that you are 100% sure that there is no chance you will slam on your brakes and lock up?? I really find that hard to believe. I practice my driving skills alot and I am always learning...target fixation, braking...etc...but i can honestly say that if that type of scenario hapend to me, i would be wanting ABS.

 

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You don't have to be a 'good' driver to not lock the brakes up when in a situation like that without ABS, people have been doing that for years. You just have to know to not jam on the pedal like a caveman/girl/idiot</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha yeah, you have to "squeeze" the pedal, not slam on it.

 

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obviously you are not supposed to slam on brakes. duh! you guys are totally missing the point of having ABS so let me restate what I said earlier:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before engineers designed a working ABS, no car in the world had it and ppl were not crashing into everything. Think about this scenario real quick: you are driving normal speed on the freeway on a rainy night and you are pretty tired so you don't exactly have your full attention on your driving. Out of nowhere, the car in front of you crashes and causes a pile up. while going about 70mph, and at the instant...you are telling me that you are 100% sure that there is no chance you will slam on your brakes and lock up?? I really find that hard to believe. I practice my driving skills alot and I am always learning...target fixation, braking...etc...but i can honestly say that if that type of scenario hapend to me, i would be wanting ABS. </TD></TR></TABLE>

and also this too:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ABS is pretty pointless 99% of the time you are driving but for that 1 time you need it, it will probably save you from crashing into a car/wall/person..etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Ok here, I know this may be an incredible thought, but (drum roll) <FONT SIZE="4">THINK</FONT>

yes, think, if its wet, dont push brakes as hard, no, never slam brakes, swerve around if you can, or at least turn sideways to slam into them....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bb4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here, I know this may be an incredible thought, but (drum roll) <FONT SIZE="4">THINK</FONT>

yes, think, if its wet, dont push brakes as hard, no, never slam brakes, swerve around if you can, or at least turn sideways to slam into them....</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, after thinking about this...you know what?! you are absolutely right on every point you made. why are manufacturers so stupid wasting billions of dollars on research to develop ABS in the first place? Why can't every driver on the road just think? that way, there will be no more accidents right?

 

Why? Because the general public DOESN'T think!

There is a definite price to removing ABS, you must pay better attention.

You make a good point, but I maintain that my car is 95% as safe without ABS than with it
The only times my abs has ever kicked in was in the snow, and one stupid time when I wasn't paying attention....

So yes it helps out a lot in snow, then again it is only so smart, and not many ppl drive preludes in snow every day....

 

it's not about thought, it's about instinct, the first thing that goes through a person's mind in the event of an accident or collision is to slam on the brakes as hard as they can. most of the time it's not even a voluntary action.

there are sometimes cases of improved stopping distance with and without abs, but as always it's a matter of preference.

 

thinking gets kinda hard when people panic, which is why abs exists...if you can brake just enough to not lock the wheels, you will stop faster than setting off the abs. but if you lock the wheels you cant steer and it takes you longer to stop...yall probly know this already.

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(bows down)

you guys are right , i'm gonna go pout now...

either way that bitch is still coming out

 

haha expletive abs

 

There is alot of nice open space on the firewall without it

 

whoa that is alot of room without it. that's good place to put a oil catch tank if you ask me

 

4th gen Prelude ABS system =

There is a reason any NASA/SCCA road-racer who has raced a 4th gen prelude removes the system. It stinks. It is a 3-channel system that is very intrusive & overly sensitive. (Remember the 4th gen. Prelude came out in Japan in 1991 - meaning it was designed in 1989 & 1990 when ABS was a lot more primative) If the prelude came with a system like ITR (newer 4-channel system), then it would be worth keeping.

However, I believe we are talking about a daily driver & not a track car. In this case, having the ABS could be beneficial. But, the original poster's ABS system is not working properly. IMHO, it's not worth spending all the time & money to fix a not so great ABS system. Just pull the fuse/unplug the light & be done with it.

 

so what about the 5th gen preludes? do they come with the newer 4-channel ones? how can you tell which one you have?

 

i have a 93 prelude si vtec and after driving for a min if not less my ABS lights up i dont even know if its working.. what do i do or check whats wrong with it any ideas??