Anyone have an ECU wiring diagram?!
Hey, so working on wiring an Apexi Neo into the ECU... only problem is I'm not too familiar with the ECU's they put on the new Civic's. Just wanting to know if anyone has a diagram of the wiring sitting around they can post for me?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elklodgeez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, so working on wiring an Apexi Neo into the ECU... only problem is I'm not too familiar with the ECU's they put on the new Civic's. Just wanting to know if anyone has a diagram of the wiring sitting around they can post for me?</TD></TR></TABLE>
why are u doing this?
1. if ur car is stock...u shouldn't even have reason.
2. it will do nothing for an NA car with the current mods out
3. it will do nothing for u performance wise
4. even with a turbo u are only limited to fuel tuning up to 3000rpm ... in other words only to allow the car to idle with bigger injectors and be able to drive at low speed...even then after a while u don't need it cuz the stock ecu is able to do it's thing....
5. stop hacking at ur car for not reason...it's a waste of time and not worth anything.
if that's not enough reason .... then feel free to keep ur search going.
why are u doing this?
1. if ur car is stock...u shouldn't even have reason.
2. it will do nothing for an NA car with the current mods out
3. it will do nothing for u performance wise
4. even with a turbo u are only limited to fuel tuning up to 3000rpm ... in other words only to allow the car to idle with bigger injectors and be able to drive at low speed...even then after a while u don't need it cuz the stock ecu is able to do it's thing....
5. stop hacking at ur car for not reason...it's a waste of time and not worth anything.
if that's not enough reason .... then feel free to keep ur search going.
Okay... I'm either extremely embarrassed, or very perplexed.
1. The car isn't stock.
2. With the air/fuel control you'd want to adjust the ratio if there is a shift in the airflow, i.e. intake/exhaust/headers. If you have a 50% better airflow percentage over stock, why not adjust the fuel % even if just to make sure you're not running lean?
3. No one's hacking at a car.
I may be absolutely wrong, and completely retarded, and if I am please tell me. I just want to make sure I'm not doing the wrong thing, if am let me know.
1. The car isn't stock.
2. With the air/fuel control you'd want to adjust the ratio if there is a shift in the airflow, i.e. intake/exhaust/headers. If you have a 50% better airflow percentage over stock, why not adjust the fuel % even if just to make sure you're not running lean?
3. No one's hacking at a car.
I may be absolutely wrong, and completely retarded, and if I am please tell me. I just want to make sure I'm not doing the wrong thing, if am let me know.
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you will not be able to alter anything...
it's can't work to change the vtec point
it can't control i-vtec much like the emanage can't do it either.
if u contact Apexi they'll tell u that it won't work period even though it can in an extremely limited capacity.... and they'll advise against wasting ur time.
u cannot adjust the fuel with it past 3000 rpm period...and even below 3000 rpm it's clear that the stock ecm kicks it off...
u may have more airflow....the stock ECM will compensate for that without a doubt. expecially being that it's only intake, header and exhaust and you will not run lean even with a hondata reflash because of this....
bro...
i had this thing on my car for an extended period of time for R+D purposes...the shop car had the S-AFC for the same reason... neither of them work on the FG2...they can only do soo much.... even the emange ultimate is limited in it's capabilities right now for the FG2...
sell the afc neo and invest in a hondata reflash if u have i/h/e .... there's no other way to go currently...
my afc neo given to me by the shop is now for sale as it is useless to me right now.
it's can't work to change the vtec point
it can't control i-vtec much like the emanage can't do it either.
if u contact Apexi they'll tell u that it won't work period even though it can in an extremely limited capacity.... and they'll advise against wasting ur time.
u cannot adjust the fuel with it past 3000 rpm period...and even below 3000 rpm it's clear that the stock ecm kicks it off...
u may have more airflow....the stock ECM will compensate for that without a doubt. expecially being that it's only intake, header and exhaust and you will not run lean even with a hondata reflash because of this....
bro...
i had this thing on my car for an extended period of time for R+D purposes...the shop car had the S-AFC for the same reason... neither of them work on the FG2...they can only do soo much.... even the emange ultimate is limited in it's capabilities right now for the FG2...
sell the afc neo and invest in a hondata reflash if u have i/h/e .... there's no other way to go currently...
my afc neo given to me by the shop is now for sale as it is useless to me right now.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sickyute »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you will not be able to alter anything...
it's can't work to change the vtec point
it can't control i-vtec much like the emanage can't do it either.
if u contact Apexi they'll tell u that it won't work period even though it can in an extremely limited capacity.... and they'll advise against wasting ur time.
u cannot adjust the fuel with it past 3000 rpm period...and even below 3000 rpm it's clear that the stock ecm kicks it off...
u may have more airflow....the stock ECM will compensate for that without a doubt. expecially being that it's only intake, header and exhaust and you will not run lean even with a hondata reflash because of this....
bro...
i had this thing on my car for an extended period of time for R+D purposes...the shop car had the S-AFC for the same reason... neither of them work on the FG2...they can only do soo much.... even the emange ultimate is limited in it's capabilities right now for the FG2...
sell the afc neo and invest in a hondata reflash if u have i/h/e .... there's no other way to go currently...
my afc neo given to me by the shop is now for sale as it is useless to me right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So basically, if this guy didn't R&D with you, he should know that the Neo is useless?
Maybe there is something I missed, but damn man, you ripped him a new one....For asking about a mod Honda users have used for YEARS... I think new members should be entitled to a BIT of respect....
Modified by xlur8ed at 4:25 PM 11/22/2006
it's can't work to change the vtec point
it can't control i-vtec much like the emanage can't do it either.
if u contact Apexi they'll tell u that it won't work period even though it can in an extremely limited capacity.... and they'll advise against wasting ur time.
u cannot adjust the fuel with it past 3000 rpm period...and even below 3000 rpm it's clear that the stock ecm kicks it off...
u may have more airflow....the stock ECM will compensate for that without a doubt. expecially being that it's only intake, header and exhaust and you will not run lean even with a hondata reflash because of this....
bro...
i had this thing on my car for an extended period of time for R+D purposes...the shop car had the S-AFC for the same reason... neither of them work on the FG2...they can only do soo much.... even the emange ultimate is limited in it's capabilities right now for the FG2...
sell the afc neo and invest in a hondata reflash if u have i/h/e .... there's no other way to go currently...
my afc neo given to me by the shop is now for sale as it is useless to me right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So basically, if this guy didn't R&D with you, he should know that the Neo is useless?
Maybe there is something I missed, but damn man, you ripped him a new one....For asking about a mod Honda users have used for YEARS... I think new members should be entitled to a BIT of respect....
Modified by xlur8ed at 4:25 PM 11/22/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elklodgeez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I may be absolutely wrong, and completely retarded, and if I am please tell me. I just want to make sure I'm not doing the wrong thing, if am let me know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xlur8ed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... I think new members should be entitled to a BIT of respect....
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sickute was just giving him his past experience with the product AND might have just saved Elk money , time AND possible damage to his motor.
albeit... a little "up in his face" but... tough love... is stilll love
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xlur8ed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So basically, if this guy didn't R&D with you, he should know that the Neo is useless?
Maybe there is something I missed, but damn man, you ripped him a new one....For asking about a mod Honda users have used for YEARS... I think new members should be entitled to a BIT of respect....
Modified by xlur8ed at 4:25 PM 11/22/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh no...i didn't expect him to know...i was only informing him
no bad intentions or ripping him a new one
just hard information/ tough love as Mr. X said.
if he still thinks it can be done...then it's up to him to learn the hard way.
good looking out Mr. X
So basically, if this guy didn't R&D with you, he should know that the Neo is useless?
Maybe there is something I missed, but damn man, you ripped him a new one....For asking about a mod Honda users have used for YEARS... I think new members should be entitled to a BIT of respect....
Modified by xlur8ed at 4:25 PM 11/22/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>
oh no...i didn't expect him to know...i was only informing him
no bad intentions or ripping him a new one
just hard information/ tough love as Mr. X said.
if he still thinks it can be done...then it's up to him to learn the hard way.
good looking out Mr. X
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good looking out Mr. X
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happy thanksgiving lol
good looking out Mr. X
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happy thanksgiving lol
i hope none of this has anything to do with the VAFC 2 which I'm about to install into my Si..........
i'm doing it to lower fuel consumption and gain power... b/c stock engine runs extremely rich and thus retards power --or so i'm told.
I also am told that our engine WILL NOT blow up b/c of some reason....we have a built in protection for that if TOO little fuel is injected (too lean)
Sorry if I sound like a total nubcake, cuz I am... all these big words and ****!
i'm doing it to lower fuel consumption and gain power... b/c stock engine runs extremely rich and thus retards power --or so i'm told.
I also am told that our engine WILL NOT blow up b/c of some reason....we have a built in protection for that if TOO little fuel is injected (too lean)
Sorry if I sound like a total nubcake, cuz I am... all these big words and ****!
No bro, I believe this was for a neo, but the v-afc 2 I would imagine would work better than the neo since the neo only works for v-tec instead of the vafc 2 which works on the i-vtec. Should be fine with being able to do the a/f and the vtec engagement.... or so I hear.
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