Today as i was upgrading my 2nd gen B16a lost motion assemblys to the newer
ITR lma's, i took a few photos of the comparisons between them, and the GSR lma's that came out of my 94 GSR swap. i noticed the older GSR lma has the same tapered shape as the b16a, but the same amount of pad area as the ITR. but w/o the tapered edge. i'm curious to know what year the gsr upgraded to the itr style.

from left to right: 94b16a, 94gsr, 98itr








Modified by brick top at 10:58 PM 11/21/2006


Modified by brick top at 2:08 PM 11/22/2006

 

pics are up...

 

make them bigger. when i click on them it says im not logged in or some ****.

did you notice any difference in the GSR/ITR ones in terms of stiffness or range of motion?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRCRXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make them bigger. when i click on them it says im not logged in or some ****.

did you notice any difference in the GSR/ITR ones in terms of stiffness or range of motion?</TD></TR></TABLE>
other than the gsr ones being worn out, no. but i didn't properly measure the spring pressure.

 

also the newer GSR ones look just like the ITR ones. i have a set in my head and they dont look like those ones.

 

Wow, those ITR LMA's are expensive.

IIRC, when I priced them for my father's LSVTEC build, the going rate was something like $32/ea.?

Why not switch out to the Prelude LMA's with a .040 washer?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, those ITR LMA's are expensive.

IIRC, when I priced them for my father's LSVTEC build, the going rate was something like $32/ea.?

Why not switch out to the Prelude LMA's with a .040 washer? </TD></TR></TABLE>

my local dealer wanted $48 each. so i ordered them for $34 each at acuraparts247.com I guess i went with the itr's being more of a convenience.
delivered to my door step, ready to go. i hate running around town, place to place, looking for ****. its getting old. but thats just me.

 

Here is some Info i have gathered since its slow today at work.

#14820-P73-J01 = 97-01 Integra Type R
#14820-P30-010 = 92-01 Integra GSR, 99-00 Civic SI, 94-97 Del Sol B16, 93-97 Prelude Vtec
#14820-P30-000 = 92-96 Integra GSR ,94-96 Del Sol B16, 93-96 Prelude Vtec

 

Rocket's thread comparing GSR vs ITR LMA
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=571523

 

locked in to this thread

 

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Rocket's thread comparing GSR vs ITR LMA
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=571523</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very nice info to know. This answers my questions on LMA's.

 

go with the prelude lmas and washers. honda switched to spring lma's for a reason, because they never fail.

 

i was bored this evening and noticed my pile of head parts and started going threw them for inventory lol...

anyway found the remains from 4 heads...this is what i noticed...[my lazy *** can take some pics if you would like?]

OBD1 SiRII head (94 if i remember right): has the narrow pointed LMA (like the 94 GSR pictured above... make noise and are EASY to push in...will be throwing those away now lol

99 Si B16A2 PR3: LMA look like the ITR ones?!?!

00 Si B16A2 PR3: guess what? yeah the same as the other head

99 USDM P72 head: look just like the "ITR" LMA's

all 3 sets of the "ITR lookin ones" seem to have the same tension but im just pushing on them with my fingers, so its not very scientific

 

So, is there any benefits to doing this?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBURKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, is there any benefits to doing this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You mean swapping LMA's? If your running higher lift cams then you should look into switching if you have the older style LMA's.

 

anybody else seen this gsr style of lma?

 

 

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You mean swapping LMA's? If your running higher lift cams then you should look into switching if you have the older style LMA's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

why would u need to switch because i switched to itr cams and at low rpm the rockers are rattling alot. should i change mine as well.

 

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Nope, the LMA out from my 95 (forgot yr, have to check) gsr head is the same size and shape as the ITR, same for my 00 b16 head too.