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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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Default cost vs. power

what is better for your money a ls swap or one of the zc's. im on a budget and i just want a daily driver thats not a joke. for the amount of money spent what is the best gain and also what is a better upgrading platform.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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zc is always the best bang for the buck

especially if you boost it later on

you can have a fully swapped boosted junkyard zc making 200 wheel for the price or an hmotors b16 swap

200whp vs 160 crank, or about 130ish whp

whats better?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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junkyard ls swap > zc
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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ls block b16 tranny...
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Default Re: cost vs. power (Pee Wee)

for the money
ls < zc
for the power
ls > zc
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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turbo zc > stock ls
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vovchandr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo zc &gt; stock ls</TD></TR></TABLE>

well no ****, obviously!

..... turbo ls&gt; turbo zc.........
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pee Wee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well no ****, obviously!

..... turbo ls&gt; turbo zc......... </TD></TR></TABLE>

But with a fixed budged a turbo zc will cost as much as a stock LS

which is why im allowed to compare the turbo zc vs the ls.

You can have a turbo zc, counting the parts for well under 2K, a junkyard setup with like 8 pounds and an FMU you can have it for under 1500$ which is about how much an ls costs
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vovchandr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But with a fixed budged a turbo zc will cost as much as a stock LS

which is why im allowed to compare the turbo zc vs the ls.

You can have a turbo zc, counting the parts for well under 2K, a junkyard setup with like 8 pounds and an FMU you can have it for under 1500$ which is about how much an ls costs</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude thats retarted. ZC and LS are pretty much the same price.

The LS will make more power for the same cost. Its not an opinion, but fact.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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they might be the same cost for the block but add up ecu, axles, linkadges, mounts, obd conversion (if needed) and extra labor (weither you do it yourself or not, still a **** load more work) ZC comes out a cheaper, faster, and easier alternative
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vovchandr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they might be the same cost for the block but add up ecu, axles, linkadges, mounts, obd conversion (if needed) and extra labor (weither you do it yourself or not, still a **** load more work) ZC comes out a cheaper, faster, and easier alternative</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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the only problem with going ls is the mount and trans you have to buy. i have a zc and i would go with a ls. YOu have a better start. i you feel like boosting it then you can. ad vtec later. build the bottom end. get a better trans. you can only go so far with a d no matter how you look at it
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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beat me to it.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Fact, stock LS &gt; stock ZC in power

Fact, ZC &gt; LS in cost

Fact ZC &gt; LS in labor

Fact with 2 thousand dollars to spend as the limit, you are better off going turbo ZC then LS Vtec
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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i didnt see the budget
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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its one of them hypothetical budgets that you make up to help get your point across

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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You can get an ls for 300 just look around, Although i like the zc's for the Somewhat low mileage even if its not exactly 50,000 like its said to be.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by La-Quiete &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can get an ls for 300 just look around, Although i like the zc's for the Somewhat low mileage even if its not exactly 50,000 like its said to be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like its already been said.......YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HELL OF THE REST OF THE SWAP FOR A B SERIES!!!!!! The zc in any of its forms bolts right in to the same tranny and all.

/thread.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Kissing boys WTF?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Default Re: cost vs. power (La-Quiete)

what would i have to buy to put in a dohc zc into my 90 lx besides the ecu and motor?
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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idk but i did a b series swap and it cost about 2800 for it to be installed running and the mechanic was a family friend that only charged 600 for the labor,
go w\ zc it is cheaper
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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it should only cost me about 1200 for the swap
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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ls/ end on thread, u can get a complete swap for 100-300 bucks and boost it under a g
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ls/ end on thread, u can get a complete swap for 100-300 bucks and boost it under a g</TD></TR></TABLE>

What the fu-ck do you smoke and where do you get it?
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