Hi everyone,
My name is Lucas and Honda Accord 2001 LX 4 door AT is my first car I bought on my own. I was happy, really happy, until I found out I bought a crappy condition car.

I was told that car was in good condition, and it looked like, interior clean, engine sounded good, test drive was ok, except some exhaust noises. Car had 104k miles when I got it for 8k$ (I knew it will need some parts right away, but I didn't expect this).

First thing to replace was catalyc converter. Next every time car shifted out of gear it was really rough, I had no idea what it was. I took it back where I bought it, they said 2 out of 4 engine mounts were damaged. Fine, let's fix it. Another few hundreds $. After they finished everything was fine except shifting out of 1st gear -it was still rough, rest was fine. Mechanic said he had no idea what's wrong, so they told me to bring the car to take it to the transmision shop for profesional expertise.

Has any of you had problems with transmision like I do? I replaced transmision fluid, and have no idea what may cause this rough shifts.

Im really down. Im not driving this car, it is still in shop and Im really sick of this whole situation. I have feeling like dealer is hiding something they know about this car. I already feel like they knew everything when I was buying the car and they've just covered everything up to sell it asap. When I "exploded" in their office last time, because I just couldn't hold it anymore, the owner told me - "well you bought it". What the heck attitude is that? Have you guys experienced anything like this in your lifes?

Thanks for spending time on reading my post.
Best regards,
Lucas

 

"Well, you bought it." - I dont even know what to say about that. If they told you the car was in good condition... Wow... That is awful. Take it to a certified dealer and explain to them.

 

Those cars are notorious for having horrible transmissions depending on your mileage I believe honda has you covered to a certain mileage for a free tranny replacement, take it to a honda shop and ask them about it

 

My transmission had the same issues when i hit 68000 miles, I just took it down to Honda and they replaced it at no cost. Just call your local Honda dealership, all 2001 accords have a 7 year / 100,000 mile warranty.

 

Lucas:

go spend some more if you have to, show your car to a good Honda Dealer in your area. get the report, and show that **** to the person or whatever whom you purchase the car.

Ask your money back, or replace you tranny, you have a lemon tranny its not your motor mounts or tires, people will tell you BS, when you have problem.

I am already angry for you here..lol

 

Guys, thank you for all your suggestions. I just came back from work and I want to get drunk right now. Dealer that I bought car from called my wife and told her that they need to fix transmision and it costs 900 $. My wife told me that lady was very polite to her and said that they are willing to cover 50% costs of this repair.

Let me tell you how I got this car.
Me and my wife had one car, cause we used to worked close to each other. I got a new job and needed a car to drive to work. We did it fast (bought car in 2 days of searching) from local car dealer. You know the rest of the story. The car price was 8k$ I put 2k$ down. She told me that first payment will be 560$ (this one includes taxes) and then 300$ every month with no interest (which seemed to be good option).
On saturday OCT 18th I paid her 900$ (560$ payment + 250 for license plate + 150 for fixing 2 engine mounts not to mention about insurance). Today they told me there is more.

What you would guys do in this case?
Car has over 100.000 miles and has no warranty from honda. Should I fix transmision (like they offered) and pray to god that this car wasn't so ruined that I will be able to drive it (or who knows maybe come back again with some serious engine issues) or tell them to give my money back (not all, at least bigger part of what I've paid) In past 3 weeks I spend over 3k$ but I planned to spend max 2k$ in cash and it looks like this car needs much more money to put in it. Market value of this car is between 7-8k$.

I don't know what my rights are. Im afraid to get screwed by this dealer.
I made a mistake, I admit it. I like this car, but it is causing more problems that I expected - and what's worse, how dealer can sell you car that is in such a bad condition?? I felt it was something wrong with it, but my wife did not, what if she drove this car until she would drop the engine on the highway. Who would be responsible for that? Im so lost guys. Please advice me. Should I keep going, or just pass and start being mean to that dealer demanding my money back?
Thank you for your all support.
Regards,
Lucas

 

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The extended warranty only applies to V6 transmissions and not the 4-cyl models. The 4-cyl models have had a few problems as well, but nothing to the extent of the V6 models, and really not that much more than most car makers.

Lucas,
Find out what exactly is wrong with the transmission before you consent to anything. It sounds like the transmission may be in need of a rebuild, in which case $900 is CHEAP. So cheap that it sounds like they might just replace it with a used one instead, which I personally don't trust since you wouldn't know the condition of the transmission. If the problem is just a set of solenoids, however, than $900 is way overpriced.

I'm not sure what you can really do in this situation... You might want to talk to a lawyer to see what actions you can take, whether you can make the dealership buy the car back, etc. If they told you the car was in good condition, which it obviously isn't, than you may have some legal actions available, but it's hard to say.

Something you may want to consider is having a independent mechanic/inspector do a complete inspection of the car. For something around $100 they'll come out and go through a lengthy checklist of things to determine the condition of the car. This should give a better idea of what to expect.

If you makes you feel any better, the cats on these cars usually don't last too far past 100,000 miles, and it's common enough to need new motor mounts at that mileage.

 

Well. Im going to pick the car up tomorrow before work cause they can fix it on friday. I will ask them tomorrow what exactly problem is and let you guys know.

Meanwhile I will take the car to Honda certified place to have the car carefully inspected as you adviced me and then I will make my decision what to do next.

I can't afford to spend any more money on this car this month so Im desperate. I just wish that my first car purchase was better planned, but hey, we learn on our mistakes.

Thanks to all of you for help. I will keep you updated with progress.
Regards,
Lucas

 

WOW that sucks. I read on their website(Cuz my parents own the same model same as yours) They said don't buy the same or rebuilt tranny. They'll cause the same things. Check your fluids

If all fails, the last owner must have abuse that car. I pampered mine, runs awesome. Don't let this incident affect you from buying a Honda again =P

 

Lucas

I think do what philadd suggested, find out what's wrong with it.

and put a used tranny is no good, if your dealer going to do that - then ask them to rebuild the one in your car.

then replace your motor mounts, wheel balance etc slowly, don't worry too much you have a good car, I know it, because I am driving a 2000 Accord sedan - nice car, but yes little bity problem here and there, but I will fix them by my self, and that's why I am here.

Good luck and all the best

ujhonda

 

Good morning everyone,
I just picked up the car and this is what they said.
They want to rebuilt transmision for 900$ (that's already discounted price, because they don't do it, but they always use one transmision shop for all cars, that's why they got discount as a valuable customer).
They will cover 50% of it.
They offered 6 months warranty on that and also waived december car payment to January - sounds fair enough to me so I will stick with Honda for bit longer.
What do you guys think? Should I still take it to a Honda dealer to have it checked?

 

yes; still take it to a Honda dealer to have it checked - because this is your chance to reject or keep the car.

yes, sound like a good deal, and your dealer paying 50% off; go for that. if you have good tranny and an engine, thats all you need, your honda will run long time.

be sure change your tranny oil every 15k or 20k at least 30k - no matter how good is your transmission.

 

Hey guys, Im back with my problem.
Before I had a chance to go to dealer I had to turn car in to rebuilt tranny.

It's second week now they are keeping my car.
The guy said he fixed it, but he had some leeking, he fixed that, but now he has some electronic problems, blah ...

I bought a car and drove it for 900 miles. And I was not using it since.
How long does it take to rebuilt tranny, and to make sure that guy knows what he is doing, are there lots "around" problems when rebuilding tranny?"
Thanks guys.

 

Hello,
I come back here to keep everyone updated on my problems with Honda Accord 2001 LX AT.

You won't believe what I went through since I wrote last time. Here is the story.

Guy took 30 days to finally "fix" the tranny. I picked the car up, everything looked fine, for a while. Next day I've noticed that when I take the foot of the gas pedal at speed 20 mph I hear grinding noise from the tranny. I went back right away to show it to the guy who fixed the tranny. He said - drive it for 2 more weeks and we will see if the noise is gone - stupid as f...k advice, but he wouldn't do anything else, so I did as adviced. After 9 days of driving the tranny "took a big crap" it cost me 80$ to tow the car into his shop again. It turned out that he didn't fix leak properly and I was driving without a fluid + he put one of the gears "upside down" - that's what he explained to me (that's why I heard the noise from tranny) - I said - dude, you took 30 days to fix it, and after 9 days of using it you are going to take another 30??

He said it will take 7 days - then ok, he replaced all broken parts again. I got the car back after a week and was driving for 30 days (meanwhile I knew I had to tune up the engine, cause I haven't touched it since I bought it (4 months) - that's why I kept asking here about Timing Belt, water pump, spark plugs and such). I didn't want to spend any more money on this car until I had tranny working fine.

Well actually I almost had tranny working fine so far - it was slipping gears on cold engine, when the temperature got at normal level I didn't even feel the tranny shifting it was so smooth, but this cold shifts were driving me nuts in the morning when I hurry to work.

So it started, engine got hickups, noise from the front brakes - it's time to put some money in the engine as well (109 k miles)

I took the car to the tranny guy again and told him about "cold shifiting" problems. He said - fix your engine first, cause this is the problem, tranny is FINE. I knew he was wrong, but hey let's do the engine.

Tranny cost me $900, full tune up cost me another $900 - i did front brakes, rear brakes, TB + pump spark plugs and much more. I gave it to the different mechanic and it took him 1 day to deal with all of this. Engine is shining, he also washed it, waxed it and it looks like brand new (no dust on it) I feel the difference in engine sound, the way brakes work, and overall driving - I LOVE IT. Well spent money and great mechanic.

He also said - listen - tranny is slipping when engine is cold, I put some more fluid but still it has a problem, so I asked him if he can give me that in writing. He agreed.

Now Im about to send official letter to the dealer and dealler's tranny mechanic with attached copy of this statement and I will request my money back for transmission rebuilt - I turned the car there 3 times - it took them total almost 1,5 month to NOT finally fix it.

My concern now is: If I get the money back - should I rebuilt it again? Can I do anythig else to have the tranny FINE? I bought the car, and overpaid 1000 $ (I bought it too fast, but I had to) on top of that I spent total $2,5 k for repairs. I will spent more on this tranny if it's worth it, but please tell me how, where and for how long this will work until I have another problem.

I was considering getting new car, but for now I own this one, and I don't want to get 20 000 $ credit for a new one and worry about apyments.

What would you do? Offcourse Im not going to spend 4,5 k$ on new tranny :-)
Thanks,
Lucas

 

new transmission usually costs around 2.8k, a well trained mechanic can do it in 3-4 hours and labor should be around 200-400 depending on how much they feel like ripping you off.

The only true fix for this transmission is going to be getting a whole new transmission, I really, really hate to say that in this case because I know you've been through so much over this car, I'm personnaly frustrated for you since I've been through somthing similar. After I put up with all the BS I ended up teaching myself everything I could about car repair and maintenance. I do everything on my car now. The only thing I havn't done myself was an alignment strictly because I wasn't trained and didn't have the equipment.

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...+ASSY

honda-tech is screwing up my url, it keeps cutting it off and it wont let me do it without the /url, find your year make and model on that website and select ENGINE ASSY.- TRANSMISSION ASSY.

illustration no. 3. I'm not 100% positive if that's a FULL transmission or not, but I would look into it, if you can get your money back from the dealer for this mechanics F-up I would put it into a new transmission (if this place offers a full transmission) it usually costs around $300 to ship, so keep that in mind.

 

if you get the money back for the rebuild and you're pleased with everything else on the car, start looking for a reputable tranny shop. Do your research, find a place that you feel 100% comfortable with doing the work. Maybe talk to the mechanic that did your tune-up work and see if he has any places for you to check out. But don't settle on one place, you really have to do your research so you don't get screwed again. Sorry to hear all the bad luck you've been having, hopefully it'll start to turn around.

 

34349 001 GENERAL ASSY. (DOT)
211276 001 GENERAL ASSY. (DOT)
211277 001 GENERAL ASSY.
371988 001 GENERAL ASSY. (DOT)
211278 001 GENERAL ASSY.
211279 001 GENERAL ASSY.
37052 001 GENERAL ASSY. (DOT)
371989 001 GENERAL ASSY. (DOT)
211281 002 GENERAL, CYL HD
371996 002 GENERAL, CYL HD
34351 003 TRANSMISSION ASSY.

Which one of those parts would be a full new tranny? The most expensive part out of this list is 2300$ which seems to be cheep compering to $900 rebuilt.

Thanks for your support guys,
Lucas

 

transmission assembly, the last one.

I would suggest calling them before ordering it, if you do, to make sure this is infact the correct part for your year make and model.

 

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Warranty applies to ALL 00-01 accords V6 and I4

Due to extended warranty coverage to 109K (california lawsuit) HONDA should replace transmission free of charge.

 

do a tranny flush on it and replace the struts on it and it will run straight

 

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Warranty applies to ALL 00-01 accords V6 and I4
Due to extended warranty coverage to 109K (california lawsuit) HONDA should replace transmission free of charge.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, someone mentioned it when my problems started, but it wasn't sure that time. Now I'm after rebuilt and with exact 109405 miles on it so I won't even try to call Honda. I'm pretty much sure they will laugh at me ;-)

Anyways, today Im sending letters out to get my money back. We'll see what's going to happen.

Thanks again for your help guys.

 

i would call them. and tell them what happened, i bet you they might still help you.

 

Well I did call them. I asked them if it is true that honda extended warranty for V4 2001 accord for transmission.

They guy was nice and said that I need to bring the car so they can make sure it's really tranny I have problems with.

I know it's tranny, but I understand the guy as well. So I also asked him if there is any general rule they follow (like certain milage, certain problems with the tranny) to have the car fixed. He said NO. If tranny is bad Honda will replace it - I was like, damn, sounds good.

Then I fired with one more question. If my tranny was already rebuilt. Am I still ok to come and see you. He said. AAAAiiiiiiii, man, Im sorry. In this case there is nothing we can do. We can try to help you fixing it, but it will cost money.

I wish I have called Honda before "aliens" touched my car. Anyways, Im still trying to get money back from that "alien" tranny-mechanic.