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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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maybe a headgasket what color of smoke??
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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what kind of turbo is it?
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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your oil return is super low on the oil pan, but not sure if thats ur problem
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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ebay kit? problem solved.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your oil return is super low on the oil pan, but not sure if thats ur problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto. that was exactly what i was thinkin when i saw the picture of where it was located on the pan.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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I'm gonna say it is one of three things, 1) You are getting too much oil pressure 2) Your oil drain line isn't on enough of an angle that the oil can drain fast enough, remember, oil drain is all gravity. And/or 3) You are a victim of shitty luck and put your oil drain in a place of high oil splashing from the crank weights or journals.

EDIT: Lets see a pic of the oil drain on the turbo end.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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My car hung the turbo very low - about 2-3" from turbo's oil outlet to pans inlet. I've never had issues with smoke or oil, and this was a used airesearch turbo. What I have seen is another ebay turbo that someone ran w/o a restrictor for a few thou miles, and when they took it off, the inside housings were both caked in oil.

If I was to guess, you have bad seals, and when the throttle plate opens wider, the extra cfm being pulled in is enough to overcome the seals and pull oil out.

Like any product with absolutely no quality control, there are good ebay turbos, and absolute **** ebay turbos. I'm not trying to make this into a 'ebay turbos suck' thread, just telling you that its the turbo thats fucked and that ebay turbos suck in the same post.


If you were a 9yr old asian kid grinding away at turbo housings to be shipped overseas to the gold-paved streets of the USA, would you take extra care to get the seals within tollerances? I know I'd just be thinking about when I get my monthly dollar from my 'master'/employer.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Having the oil drain at a bad angle will definately cause oil blowby... But with oil shooting out of the hotside.... Yeah, it is like the seal isn't even there.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid-Fusion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ouch!

I don't want this to become one of those "Look at the crappy EBay kit and how it didn't work thread".
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Too late....

but yeah the seals are bad.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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1- Do you have a restrictor on there?You must run one with CDM turbos
2- That oil return looks to low
Fix those issues and maybe it will stop smoking.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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my oil return is all the way on the bottem on my VW zero problems
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Looks like no one has said it yet so i will. Crank case vetilation prob. I had a slight smoking issue once and after going through the trouble of checking and double checking everything thrice, it was poor crank case ventilation.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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from what seller did you buy the ebay turbo from
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pgmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1- Do you have a restrictor on there?You must run one with CDM turbos

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do u not know how to read. he states in the first post he has a restrictor already.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your oil return is super low on the oil pan, but not sure if thats ur problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

no.. this isnt the problem, my return is LOWER, my turbo dosent smoke after 20k.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Having the oil drain at a bad angle will definately cause oil blowby... But with oil shooting out of the hotside.... Yeah, it is like the seal isn't even there.</TD></TR></TABLE>'

x2

thats a shitload of oil.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Dont buy eBay turbochargers! Thats your problem. Spend the money and do it right the first time and you wont have this problem.

Turbonetics offers a 1 year warranty even on USER error claims. Keep that in mind next time your shopping for a turbocharger.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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that turbo probably took a **** on ya bro. In one of the pics I can see a bunch of oil inside the turbo housing. Best beat is to spray everything down with brake cleaner(engine cold) then crank it up and diagnose the leak. Where ever the leak is coming from it has pressure. check the feed line as well.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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what size is your oil feed? dont use bigger than a -4 fitting/line, also the return is a gravity feed to your pan, try to have youe return on your pan at the as close to the top of the pan as possible. and try to have it verticial to the return on the turbo.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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Everything looks fine for your setup, so I must say it's another misfortune with those Ebay turbos...
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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sorry to burst your bubble,but even with a restrictor fitted inline an ebay turbo can still smoke.My XSPOWER turbo took a **** on me twice! I will never buy a shitty turbo again
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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as everyone has already stated.. oil seals are
only happening under decelleration shows that the oil is leaking (?? squirting!) past the seals under higher pressures

Think I'd be taking that turbo back to where you got it from and demanding a refund!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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you gambled and lost....sucks for you, but China is happy
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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if that turbo is a used airesearch....then that was a bad investment. I bought one for my prelude and it didnt last no longer than a 1 1/2 month.

get a new turbo. and make sure that feed line is high enough on the pan.
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