**Too Much Go - Not Enough Turn - DC suspension build*HELP**
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Alright, I have a '95 LS that is turbo (kinda more of a drag car I guess) but it sees alot of street and I would love to hit a road track some day ... really its just a fast toy, not really dedicated to anything (drag/street/autoX/etc) .
Been working on the turbo set up for awhile and not enough money to go around, so the suspension is lacking.
Current set up:
Omni power coil overs (spring and sleeve slip over style)
Omni power F&R camber kit
Cheap *** strut tower brace
Stock everything else ... including blown stock shocks
Rides like *** ... kinda rough and bouncy, floats at speed, rolls in corners ... THIS THING IS SLOPPY! IT'S A FCKN DEATH TRAP
So, I am sick of it and I want to really make it stick to the road.
I realize the shocks are 90% of the problem. Had a set of KYB AGXs on my previous car ('01 GSR) and liked them but it was a DD and never got REALLY pushed like I hope to push this car ...
Trying to stay cheap as possible but willing to spend a little to get the handling I want. Don't really care about ride as long as it'll hook the hell out of a corner.
So.....
Add Koni Yellows ?
Add KYB AGX and a better sway bar?
Ditch the Omni coils and go full coil over?
Lookin for input from racers or the like, not whats on your DD
Been working on the turbo set up for awhile and not enough money to go around, so the suspension is lacking.
Current set up:
Omni power coil overs (spring and sleeve slip over style)
Omni power F&R camber kit
Cheap *** strut tower brace
Stock everything else ... including blown stock shocks
Rides like *** ... kinda rough and bouncy, floats at speed, rolls in corners ... THIS THING IS SLOPPY! IT'S A FCKN DEATH TRAP
So, I am sick of it and I want to really make it stick to the road.
I realize the shocks are 90% of the problem. Had a set of KYB AGXs on my previous car ('01 GSR) and liked them but it was a DD and never got REALLY pushed like I hope to push this car ...
Trying to stay cheap as possible but willing to spend a little to get the handling I want. Don't really care about ride as long as it'll hook the hell out of a corner.
So.....
Add Koni Yellows ?
Add KYB AGX and a better sway bar?
Ditch the Omni coils and go full coil over?
Lookin for input from racers or the like, not whats on your DD
Cheap like how cheap?
If you wanna keep it in the under a few hundred than I'd do adjustable shocks (which ever you choose) and have them adjusted to be stiffer....
If you wanna get the best for say 700ish (and have better track set ups) than I'd do like Skunk 2 coil over set and call it a day (I've read several reviews and everybody's been happy with um) or K Sports or Form n Functions.... it's all in how much you wanna spend.
If you wanna keep it in the under a few hundred than I'd do adjustable shocks (which ever you choose) and have them adjusted to be stiffer....
If you wanna get the best for say 700ish (and have better track set ups) than I'd do like Skunk 2 coil over set and call it a day (I've read several reviews and everybody's been happy with um) or K Sports or Form n Functions.... it's all in how much you wanna spend.
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Well I am tempted to just go KYB AGX ... for $300
But alot of people say the Koni Yellows are superior, but at ~$500 I could pretty much take that cash + sell my Omni sleeves and get some full coil overs ... like maybe the Form n Functions ...
But, if I only dropped 300 on the KYBs I could afford to buy some other stuff like maybe a sway bar and a rear strut brace ...
So....
Would Omni sleeves+KYB AGXs+Sway Bar+Strut Braces out handle just a set of full coil overs ???
But alot of people say the Koni Yellows are superior, but at ~$500 I could pretty much take that cash + sell my Omni sleeves and get some full coil overs ... like maybe the Form n Functions ...
But, if I only dropped 300 on the KYBs I could afford to buy some other stuff like maybe a sway bar and a rear strut brace ...
So....
Would Omni sleeves+KYB AGXs+Sway Bar+Strut Braces out handle just a set of full coil overs ???
I doubt coil-over sleeve kit on adjustable struts would handle better than coil-over full sets...... but it's all in cost to performance.
Since you're more wanting race type driving over daily driving I'd save up for the complete coil over set and get the sway bar n brace later on. If it was for dd I'd say get the AGX's but you say you're looking more toward race form driving and a complete coil over set will out perform the omni's n agx's.
Since you're more wanting race type driving over daily driving I'd save up for the complete coil over set and get the sway bar n brace later on. If it was for dd I'd say get the AGX's but you say you're looking more toward race form driving and a complete coil over set will out perform the omni's n agx's.
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Hmmm.... I am feelin like it's gonna be a set of FnFs .... anybody seen em under $699?
Anybody know somethin better for $700 or less?
Anybody know somethin better for $700 or less?
You talk like you are willing to buy a good suspension but you write like you're going to get a worthless suspension. KYB's are not going to be good for track days. Don't even bother trying to upgrade if you're going to half *** it. Unless it's only for DD.
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Koni Yellows w/ GC coilovers (300-400f/325-425r), 22mm oem/jdm rear sway bar ($105), set camber 1.5* neg. front and back, and if you want swap front UCAs to gain a couple degrees of caster. This is just my ideal street/"track" setup.
Sway bar: http://geocities.com/bretq/swaybar_install.html
What tires do you have now?
I wouldn't spend any less on my suspension setup then this, it just doesn't make sense. At least to me.
Sway bar: http://geocities.com/bretq/swaybar_install.html
What tires do you have now?
I wouldn't spend any less on my suspension setup then this, it just doesn't make sense. At least to me.
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Sway bar: http://geocities.com/bretq/swaybar_install.html
What tires do you have now?
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Sway bar: http://geocities.com/bretq/swaybar_install.html
What tires do you have now?
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Pretty much what I'm running, feels great.
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Pretty much what I'm running, feels great.
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The Koni Yellow / GC combo runs $850 which is higher than several full coil overs
Function & Form $699
D2 Racing Sport $740
KSport $600
Really lookin at the KSports now since they are 36 way adjustable and have a 1yr warranty ... plus the nice price tag.
Function & Form $699
D2 Racing Sport $740
KSport $600
Really lookin at the KSports now since they are 36 way adjustable and have a 1yr warranty ... plus the nice price tag.
OBX coilovers had a 1 year warranty as well...worst crap you can buy. Don't "save" the money. Just because they are coilovers doesn't meean they are good quality.
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What? are you trying to say KSport = OBX ? I've read alot of ksport reviews tonight and everybody sounds pretty pleased...
running 205/55/15 kumho ecsta supra 712s for the person that asked.
hmmmm.... now I gotta find someone whos had Koni/GC and Ksports
running 205/55/15 kumho ecsta supra 712s for the person that asked.
hmmmm.... now I gotta find someone whos had Koni/GC and Ksports
You know, there's a good reason a lot of people recommend the Koni/GC combo. If you shop around you can get them for a little under $800.
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for those that are running the GC/Koni set up what other set ups have you ran?
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