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Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si?

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Default Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si?

I have both cars but I need to sell one to spend the money on the other. Which would be a better chassis to start with? Not looking to compete but more of a weekend toy that I can learn to drive better with.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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The rear end of the CR-X is easy to slide out. There's basically no weight back there so it will get more "wild" than a Civic would.

The last thing you should do is gut a CR-X hatch.

CR-X's are way cooler though
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (deviate_si)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviate_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The last thing you should do is gut a CR-X hatch.
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Why's that?
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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God, I can't believe anyone still posts here.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Another Drew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why's that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because....
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (Another Drew)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Another Drew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why's that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever done any aggressive driving in a CR-X before? The back end is too light (there's no seats or anything, just a huge amount of space). If you gut it out, then you're making it even lighter, giving it less weight to hold it on the ground. I have a full interior and it is easy to swing the *** out, sometimes a little too easy. It's almost like CR-X's have oversteer.

A bunch of guys in my city who are track rats prefer the Civic for an EF chassis due to the hatch having some extra weight to it, so it's not as easy to slide the *** out.

As long as you know how to drive a CR-X you'll be fine though. I know how to handle my car and how hard to throw it into turns before it gets too wild on me. I just think gutting the hatch will just make it easier to spin the back end out too much and thus making you spin out of control.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (deviate_si)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviate_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you ever done any aggressive driving in a CR-X before? The back end is too light (there's no seats or anything, just a huge amount of space). If you gut it out, then you're making it even lighter, giving it less weight to hold it on the ground. I have a full interior and it is easy to swing the *** out, sometimes a little too easy. It's almost like CR-X's have oversteer.

A bunch of guys in my city who are track rats prefer the Civic for an EF chassis due to the hatch having some extra weight to it, so it's not as easy to slide the *** out.

As long as you know how to drive a CR-X you'll be fine though. I know how to handle my car and how hard to throw it into turns before it gets too wild on me. I just think gutting the hatch will just make it easier to spin the back end out too much and thus making you spin out of control. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My head hurts.

Either will be fine, I'd prefer the CRX out of the two choices. It's lighter overall, it's more powerful with better gearing, and the hatch is larger so you can put tires in easier. The back end being "too light" is a non issue.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (deviate_si)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviate_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Have you ever done any aggressive driving in a CR-X before? The back end is too light (there's no seats or anything, just a huge amount of space). If you gut it out, then you're making it even lighter, giving it less weight to hold it on the ground. I have a full interior and it is easy to swing the *** out, sometimes a little too easy. It's almost like CR-X's have oversteer.

A bunch of guys in my city who are track rats prefer the Civic for an EF chassis due to the hatch having some extra weight to it, so it's not as easy to slide the *** out.

As long as you know how to drive a CR-X you'll be fine though. I know how to handle my car and how hard to throw it into turns before it gets too wild on me. I just think gutting the hatch will just make it easier to spin the back end out too much and thus making you spin out of control. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Huh?

The CRX is the better chassis here.

Is it harder to drive at the limit? Hell yeah it is.

It has nothing to do with "weight" though. It has all to do with the fact that the CRX has a VERY short wheel base compared to the civic.
The short wheel base makes it more difficult to drive at the limit and is all around a much more difficult car to drive fast! Sometimes they are describes as being "twitchy".

All that makes it much sweeter when it does exactly what you want it to though.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (deviate_si)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviate_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A bunch of guys in my city who are track rats prefer the Civic for an EF chassis due to the hatch having some extra weight to it, so it's not as easy to slide the *** out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe, but he's not deciding between a CRX and EF hatch... He has an EG hatch.

Of the two, I'd go with the CRX for racing. The 92-95 EG hatch is poorly classed/weighted in H4 (not sure about ITA...). The guys who are driving them competitively are not winning races like the CRXs and DA Integras are. The CRX is not necessarily a better car, just a more competitive car...
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (thawley)

Yes that is very true, but when I was comparing I used the EF hatch as an example since it's hatch is similar to an EG and I don't know any guys who use EGs.

EF chassis &gt; EG chassis IMO.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (deviate_si)

this seems to be a nutty thread

weight is the enemy in any type of motor sports. you want to stick to the ground? do your suspension, rims, tires setup well.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (marshun)

First we need to know

how much can you get for each of the cars....


Personally I think I'd rather have the CRX for a track car, and I currently have a EG Si hatch which I use for track duty.

You will have fun with either car though.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (marshun)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marshun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this seems to be a nutty thread

weight is the enemy in any type of motor sports. you want to stick to the ground? do your suspension, rims, tires setup well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And since all roadrace classes these cars are elidgeble for have assigned minimum weights, your point is...???
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (chad)

I can slide the *** out in my EG

But I think it's pretty "well behaved"
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (thawley)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And since all roadrace classes these cars are elidgeble for have assigned minimum weights, your point is...???</TD></TR></TABLE>

it doesnt matter which car. do the set up right and it'll stick to the ground

so whats YOUR point?
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (marshun)

id use the CRX, mine was so fun I miss it!!! all i had was a sohc zc but i could out run anything in the corners...
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (marshun)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marshun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt matter which car. do the set up right and it'll stick to the ground</TD></TR></TABLE>
And just how many race cars have you set up that you can make them all handle the same with your extrodinary tuning skills? How many race cars have you even driven?

(Hint: That's a trick question that you don't need to answer. It's really okay to be open minded and learn things on the internet. No one will think less of you if you don't have all the answers. You ony look like an idiot when you don't know everything but act like you do.)
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Which chassis would you choose: '94 Cx hatchback or '91 Crx Si? (thawley)

the EG isn't competitive is becuase of the z6 nothing wrong with the suspension or chassi itself IMO.
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