Older welders better than the new ones?

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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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The guy that owns the local welding shop (who sells lincoln and miller) swears by the older welders. He says the newer ones are run by the computer and the " board" blow out and are real expensive to fix. He would rather sell me a used one than a new one? Any thoughts on this. I was looking for a 200-250 syncrowave but he has a miller 250 dialarc that i can get for lower than 800 that is set up for tig welding and comes with torch and pedal etc
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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My syncro 250 seems to be holding up pretty good, it's about 3 years old.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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yeah i never heard of anyone having problems with their millers on here and searcing on the internet i havent found anything that says a dialarc can tig weld and what type of tig welding it would be good for.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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I'd shy away from an older welder just because i'm a fabricator, not a welder repair guy. If something goes wrong with it, which in my opinion is more likely than with a newer machine, it's not like you can just throw the beast in your truck and take it back to the welding shop. Plus, i find it hard to believe that the newer machines don't weld a bit better than an older machine. It's only natural for things to progress with time.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd shy away from an older welder just because i'm a fabricator, not a welder repair guy. If something goes wrong with it, which in my opinion is more likely than with a newer machine, it's not like you can just throw the beast in your truck and take it back to the welding shop. Plus, i find it hard to believe that the newer machines don't weld a bit better than an older machine. It's only natural for things to progress with time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

makes sense to me. I as well am just going to be using it to fab stuff for cars and motorcycles as a hobby
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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i have a miller dialarc hf from like the early 80's. and i had bought a syncrowave 200 a couple years ago. i ended up selling the syncrowave, im just stuck on the dialarc hf
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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I've welded with some old (read: ancient) machines, and in all reality the DC arc on a new machine is similar to a newer machine. Where the newer machines really shine is the AC stuff. The AC on a miller dynasty is phenomenal.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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pulse welding FTW!!!!! It's going to change the welding industry and already has. It has become software driven, and different programs are as easy to download onto a palm pilot and transfer into your welder.

Think about this. If your welding on an assembly line, and worker 1 has a different welding style than worker 2. It is as easy as switching to weld mode 2 and your set. Technology pwns@! To answer your question no in my opinion i would always want to have the most up to date equiptment to make my life easier, and stay ahead of of your competition.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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i bought a used early 90s (94 to be exact) dialarc hf and it works great for me. I have used a new syncrowave 250 and will admit that the ac is a more stable arc with it.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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I just baught a Dialarc HF and a Sycrowave 250 at auction... I'll be sure to compare them once I take delivery...
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