372whp 232wtq 8.4psi ... 2006 Si
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372whp 232wtq 8.4psi ... 2006 Si
My AJ Performance kit (same car that made 300 @ 5psi)
the lowest of the day being 369.62whp +228.96wtq
best run 372whp + 232wtq @ 8psi dynojet corrected numbers.
power was received by tuning from Doug of Hondata...took basically a full day of tuning this thing...
well worth the wait...
vtec @ 4200 rpm
cam angles altered
timing and everything else altered
there were some minor issues....so power had to stopped there...there is quite a bit more to be made at that psi(8)...and it will be done after i adress those mild issues.
the reflash just made on my car is the official reflash that's going to be available for the kit...safe for 10psi
no graph...but it will be up on hondata's website when Doug get's back to Cali and puts it up i guess... there is a graph on 8thcivic though...
mod list on cardomain page...
Doug is the man!!!!! Hondata rocks!!!
AJP ftw
the lowest of the day being 369.62whp +228.96wtq
best run 372whp + 232wtq @ 8psi dynojet corrected numbers.
power was received by tuning from Doug of Hondata...took basically a full day of tuning this thing...
well worth the wait...
vtec @ 4200 rpm
cam angles altered
timing and everything else altered
there were some minor issues....so power had to stopped there...there is quite a bit more to be made at that psi(8)...and it will be done after i adress those mild issues.
the reflash just made on my car is the official reflash that's going to be available for the kit...safe for 10psi
no graph...but it will be up on hondata's website when Doug get's back to Cali and puts it up i guess... there is a graph on 8thcivic though...
mod list on cardomain page...
Doug is the man!!!!! Hondata rocks!!!
AJP ftw
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Re: (95turbodteg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good ****** god, that is just sweet. so how long do u give the stock block before giving out? what are the power handling capabilites of a k series block without being sleeved?</TD></TR></TABLE>
generally...250 wtq is the mark to look out for.
where sleeving the block is concerned...that's an unknown....however i've seen an extensive write-up by Shaun of ERL(i think it is) suggesting that a stock block can approach 600 before sleeving is necessary...it was n extensive write up concerning engine builds, sleeving, porting, polishing....etc. etc.. the whole 9 yards.
i'm not too concerned at the power levels i'm at now....
generally...250 wtq is the mark to look out for.
where sleeving the block is concerned...that's an unknown....however i've seen an extensive write-up by Shaun of ERL(i think it is) suggesting that a stock block can approach 600 before sleeving is necessary...it was n extensive write up concerning engine builds, sleeving, porting, polishing....etc. etc.. the whole 9 yards.
i'm not too concerned at the power levels i'm at now....
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Re: (sickyute)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sickyute »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
generally...250 wtq is the mark to look out for.
where sleeving the block is concerned...that's an unknown....however i've seen an extensive write-up by Shaun of ERL(i think it is) suggesting that a stock block can approach 600 before sleeving is necessary...it was n extensive write up concerning engine builds, sleeving, porting, polishing....etc. etc.. the whole 9 yards.
i'm not too concerned at the power levels i'm at now....
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Got a link by any chance?
generally...250 wtq is the mark to look out for.
where sleeving the block is concerned...that's an unknown....however i've seen an extensive write-up by Shaun of ERL(i think it is) suggesting that a stock block can approach 600 before sleeving is necessary...it was n extensive write up concerning engine builds, sleeving, porting, polishing....etc. etc.. the whole 9 yards.
i'm not too concerned at the power levels i'm at now....
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Got a link by any chance?
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These posts are really making me want to start saving.... by the time i have enough for the kit, perhaps you all will have found the flaws/issues/downfalls to this motor with that much boost.
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what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit.
sorry for the crappy video...
only had my moto Q on hand for video...
i'm recording....dyno tech. is driving.
run 1
run 2
here's a graph for u guys while still under tuning changes...everything was made perfect after with some more power added...final graph i don't have....i guess that will be seen on hondata's page at a later date.
only had my moto Q on hand for video...
i'm recording....dyno tech. is driving.
here's a graph for u guys while still under tuning changes...everything was made perfect after with some more power added...final graph i don't have....i guess that will be seen on hondata's page at a later date.
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (sickyute)
Wow, that is really impressive. Congratulation. I can't imagine driving a 2,800 lb car with 375wph. What is that 7.5lb per HP? But then again, I am old and lack imagination. 
I would like too read the analysis you mentioned regarding 600wph before needing sleeving. I know the K20 is a strong motor, but 600 just sounds really high to me, without sleeving the engine.
How big of an inter-cooler are you using for that amount of boost? I got to say, I really find this stuff interesting.
The mechanics at Dynospot racing worked with someone at Hondata when the tweaked the reflash for my SC installation. I wonder if it was Doug? I will have to call Lawerance at DSR and ask him.
You must have lots of open roads in Florida. I don't think I would ever get the opportunity to use 375wph where I life. We don't have any public tracks around here anymore, not since they closed down Fremont Raceway and Santa Clara Fairgrounds. Hell, I hardly ever get the chance to enjoy the extra power I have now.
I would like too read the analysis you mentioned regarding 600wph before needing sleeving. I know the K20 is a strong motor, but 600 just sounds really high to me, without sleeving the engine.
How big of an inter-cooler are you using for that amount of boost? I got to say, I really find this stuff interesting.
The mechanics at Dynospot racing worked with someone at Hondata when the tweaked the reflash for my SC installation. I wonder if it was Doug? I will have to call Lawerance at DSR and ask him.
You must have lots of open roads in Florida. I don't think I would ever get the opportunity to use 375wph where I life. We don't have any public tracks around here anymore, not since they closed down Fremont Raceway and Santa Clara Fairgrounds. Hell, I hardly ever get the chance to enjoy the extra power I have now.
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (TRE_)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TRE_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow! 
very impressive man... looks like a lot of fun.
Mind sharing a complete list of mods? Clutch, injectors, etc? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i'm on the stock clutch...been there from day 1 ... over 6500 miles sice the kit.
my mod list is extensive... check the cardomain link below for full list.
very impressive man... looks like a lot of fun.Mind sharing a complete list of mods? Clutch, injectors, etc?
</TD></TR></TABLE>i'm on the stock clutch...been there from day 1 ... over 6500 miles sice the kit.
my mod list is extensive... check the cardomain link below for full list.
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (Hellzcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hellzcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, that is really impressive. Congratulation. I can't imagine driving a 2,800 lb car with 375wph. What is that 7.5lb per HP? But then again, I am old and lack imagination.
I would like too read the analysis you mentioned regarding 600wph before needing sleeving. I know the K20 is a strong motor, but 600 just sounds really high to me, without sleeving the engine.
How big of an inter-cooler are you using for that amount of boost? I got to say, I really find this stuff interesting.
The mechanics at Dynospot racing worked with someone at Hondata when the tweaked the reflash for my SC installation. I wonder if it was Doug? I will have to call Lawerance at DSR and ask him.
You must have lots of open roads in Florida. I don't think I would ever get the opportunity to use 375wph where I life. We don't have any public tracks around here anymore, not since they closed down Fremont Raceway and Santa Clara Fairgrounds. Hell, I hardly ever get the chance to enjoy the extra power I have now.
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just made a thread on 8th concerning the sleeving of the block and so on...
but here goes...
this is a PDF i found for u guys talking about pistons and rods and sleeving and so on... should shed some light on the topic for some and others u may feel dumb...lol
http://www.erlperformance.com/...1.pdf
a slight interpretations for you guys of the above info.
"I didn't catch it until just now, but everything I've ever read said the sleeves in a K block were iron, not aluminum. The pdf you posted seemed to indicate that as well as it was comparing their ductile iron to cast iron. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
In any case, it's time for a bit of interpolation with the numbers from ERL's pdf. They note that cast iron will yield around 45,000 psi (the Von Mises stress). They simulated 75,000 psi at 45psi boost for a rated 1200 hp. They said that a standard N/A k24 reaches 1200 psi combustion pressure, where as their 1200 hp one reached 6000 psi. Let's assume for a moment that the stress psi and cylinder pressure psi are related, in some way, if not linear, close to it. A little math would put the stress psi of 600hp or around 22psi at around 75000 * .6 = 45000 psi.
That would seem to indicate that the stock sleeve would start to yield at around 600hp."
a thread for more reference can be found here.
http://forums.clubrsx.com/show...motor
I would like too read the analysis you mentioned regarding 600wph before needing sleeving. I know the K20 is a strong motor, but 600 just sounds really high to me, without sleeving the engine.
How big of an inter-cooler are you using for that amount of boost? I got to say, I really find this stuff interesting.
The mechanics at Dynospot racing worked with someone at Hondata when the tweaked the reflash for my SC installation. I wonder if it was Doug? I will have to call Lawerance at DSR and ask him.
You must have lots of open roads in Florida. I don't think I would ever get the opportunity to use 375wph where I life. We don't have any public tracks around here anymore, not since they closed down Fremont Raceway and Santa Clara Fairgrounds. Hell, I hardly ever get the chance to enjoy the extra power I have now.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
just made a thread on 8th concerning the sleeving of the block and so on...
but here goes...
this is a PDF i found for u guys talking about pistons and rods and sleeving and so on... should shed some light on the topic for some and others u may feel dumb...lol
http://www.erlperformance.com/...1.pdf
a slight interpretations for you guys of the above info.
"I didn't catch it until just now, but everything I've ever read said the sleeves in a K block were iron, not aluminum. The pdf you posted seemed to indicate that as well as it was comparing their ductile iron to cast iron. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
In any case, it's time for a bit of interpolation with the numbers from ERL's pdf. They note that cast iron will yield around 45,000 psi (the Von Mises stress). They simulated 75,000 psi at 45psi boost for a rated 1200 hp. They said that a standard N/A k24 reaches 1200 psi combustion pressure, where as their 1200 hp one reached 6000 psi. Let's assume for a moment that the stress psi and cylinder pressure psi are related, in some way, if not linear, close to it. A little math would put the stress psi of 600hp or around 22psi at around 75000 * .6 = 45000 psi.
That would seem to indicate that the stock sleeve would start to yield at around 600hp."
a thread for more reference can be found here.
http://forums.clubrsx.com/show...motor
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (RWatters)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RWatters »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are the numbers in SAE?
And that's a pretty aggressive tune for boost, high compression, and 8000rpm is it not?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the numbers are corrected
8600 rpm.
And that's a pretty aggressive tune for boost, high compression, and 8000rpm is it not?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the numbers are corrected
8600 rpm.
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (sickyute)
Corrected using an STD correction factor, not SAE which is widely accepted and used for dynographs. It is considered the "norm."
Isn't that a bit of an aggressive A/F tune for high compression, boost, and that much RPM? Since it's a reflash what will it do and how will it react to weather changes?
Isn't that a bit of an aggressive A/F tune for high compression, boost, and that much RPM? Since it's a reflash what will it do and how will it react to weather changes?
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (sickyute)
congrats
Making great power
I also replied to post you made at clubrsx
But after looking at the dyno its looks as if your creeping a bit
Making great power
I also replied to post you made at clubrsx
But after looking at the dyno its looks as if your creeping a bit
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Re: what 375whp sounds and looks like from AJP kit. (willyboyK20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by willyboyK20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">congrats
Making great power
I also replied to post you made at clubrsx
But after looking at the dyno its looks as if your creeping a bit</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i said that in the thread on crsx...
that the boost started to creep a lil ...
Making great power
I also replied to post you made at clubrsx
But after looking at the dyno its looks as if your creeping a bit</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah i said that in the thread on crsx...
that the boost started to creep a lil ...