I drive a 2000 accord 4 dr 4 cyl. It has a F23a1 VTEC. Now the only problem is that its automatic. I wanna swap the tranny over this upcoming year but i was wondering if anyone had any pointers, tips, parts for sale, or knowlege on whether or not I can bolt up a different tranny other than from a 2000 accord. And after that I wanna build it up to make about 220 whp NA. Any ideas? Please help me

 

Your options will be pretty limited as far as auto transmission swaps are concerned. You could go with an 92-95 jdm H22 auto tranny, which comes with lsd. However, when all is said and done you could easily go with a 5-speed swap for about the same price (and probably more reliability at that power level). People have done the auto to 5-speed swap for around $1000 and there are quite a few write ups on how to do it. I completed the swap on my '98 Accord in September and couldn't be happier. I used http://www.car-part.com for used parts (tranny, mounts, starter, etc) and http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com for the new parts I needed.

Good luck

 

Here's the best write up for the 5-speed swap in 6th gen Accords...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1229014

Also, here is the 6th gen conversion parts list I came up with and some misc details about the swap...

Five speed tranny
Tranny mounts
Clutch
Flywheel and flywheel bolts
Driver's side axle and half shaft
5-speed starter
Clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder and lines (revised parts from Honda)
Clutch pedal and brake pedal assemblies
Shifter assembly
3 wire speed sensor connector
5-speed ECU

I bought the shifter assemby from Majestic Honda because it lists every part for it on one page, although it was pricey. I picked up a used set of pedal assemblies but Majestic has all the parts listed for that as well.

Make sure you get the VIN number of the car that the 5-speed ecu was pulled from. It will make the immobilizer reprogramming go much smoother and quicker at the Honda dealership. The immobilizer process ran me just over $100 at the local Honda dealership and maybe an hour and a half of down time.

I'm pretty sure the speed sensor connector can be pulled from any 5-speed Honda. I pulled mine from a EG Civic and it works fine.

My swap ran me about $1500 in parts including a heavy duty ACT clutch and flywheel ($500) and one of the more spendy transmissions ($475 shipped when they can be had to $100 less with more miles, mine only had 24k miles). The swap ran about 12 hours of labor, beginning to end.

 

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220 wheel hp N/A from an F23? I hope you're prepared to spend some serious money because that's not going to be an easy task.

 

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220 wheel hp N/A from an F23? I hope you're prepared to spend some serious money because that's not going to be an easy task.</TD></TR></TABLE>

might as well get a h22 with 5spd trans already in it.

big cam, cat delete and hondata

 

ur best bet is to find a wrecked accord im sure there is a salvage yard near u somewere go look, i did a auto to manual in my friends 2001 accord for less than $500 bucks thats shift linkage pedals an exc... keep us posted good luck bro.

 

thanks everyone for your help. I should be starting the project somewhere near january so I'll let you know.

 

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There are a couple but they are all chock full of the pickups and Cavaliers that the drunk rednecks down here wrap around telephone poles.

Drew - Who senses that there will be a 2000 Accord living in his garage this winter . . .


Modified by Evil Drew M at 11:05 AM 11/14/2006

 

If you want that much hp and manual tranny, your better off buying a h22 swap, then sourcing the other MT parts needed from a junkyard....

Make sure to research H22 transmissions so you get the one you want.

 

Who's the guy w/the five speed EX in Group 3? He'd be a good person to talk to about suspensions.

 

Steven - Here is the list in order if you want to get into track driving:

1. Transmission
2. Wheels/Tires
3. Brake pads/Brake fluid
4. Suspension
5. Rollover protection
6. Power

Believe me when I tell you that your car has more than enough torque/HP to learn with. Unless you are a natural with instinctual talent like Corey had when he started out you will quickly find that the car's limiting factor in the beginning is the driver, not the equipment.

There are 2 schools of thought regarding learning track driving. One school says keep it 100% stock, including the tires and learn how to drive the car that way. In the big scheme of things this is probably the best way to do it from an educational standpoint BUT it can be frustrating and it eliminates the whole other aspect of car "fun" which leads us to the other school of thought (where I subscribe).

Half the fun in all of this is building/tinkering. I believe that you can build a car with modest alterations that won't drastically cover up mistakes when you are learning BUT will add several positive dimensions to the whole experience. Some basic suspension/brake mods and a set of Kumho Ecsta 712s or Ecsta MXs will last you for a LONG time and will be reliable. Once you start digging into the motor your reliability decreases exponentially.