What would I need to get this motor to pass bar?

97 coupe
JDM b16
bone stock w/ jdm ecu

Any positive input will be greatly appreciated


Modified by jaydiem_ek at 12:37 PM 1/1/2007

 

get a new motor. year build must be newer or same as your car (98+ B16A, most likely a B16A2 from an Si) you also need Evap Purge Solenoid, coal canister, intake manifold must be stock B16A or CARB-EO certified equivalent, headers must have O2 flanges and have heat shield present, and to finish it off you must have the OBD2 P2T ECU from a 99/00 Si. with that type of work I'd say use this change to pick up a B18C1 swap and make it BAR legal.

 

is there any way to convert my obd1 motor into a obd2?

 

ttt

 

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Sure... use an OBD2 distributor, re-install the EVAP system, second o2 sensor again, and use an OBDII P30. You'll pass. Assuming they don't realize that the motor is older than the car itself.

 

what if i use a p2t ecu..? will they knock me for using a obd2a-&gt; obd2b harness?

 

wow I feel for you cali boys. The cops must not have enough to do out there. *****!!!

 

help!

 

your not going to use a obd2a-obd2b harness, your going to use a obd2 harness becuase you need a obd2a motor in that car,

you have an obd1 he was reffering to converting the motor to obd2a meaning, u need a dizzy, another o2 sensor and o2 sensor bung,

 

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dont ya need bill of sale?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunk_duece &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow I feel for you cali boys. The cops must not have enough to do out there. *****!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

We Californians got crappy smog laws out here, and they allow an SUV to pass over a civic, whos the law maker, GM?

 

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We Californians got crappy smog laws out here, and they allow an SUV to pass over a civic, whos the law maker, GM?</TD></TR></TABLE>

GM ftw

 

Didnt b16a sir II come in obd2 also?but 92-95. I would look into the obd version before doing anything.

 

F all that crap and just pay the ticket it only gonna be like 450 dollars, you will spend more than that trying to get your car to pass ref, never go to ref and just pay the ticket /thread

 

so true, sell the engine and get a b18c5

 

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I would rather pay that little more for the parts for it to pass and become legal than to give california some more of my hard earned cash. And hopefully I won't spend more than $450 on parts to pass b/c I plan on selling my obd1 stuff and use that cash to pick up the stuff I need.

Right now I have a couple parts lined-up for me to pick up:
Stock b16a2 header
P2T ecu
Stock EK airbox

Besides an obd2 intake manifold and dizzy, what else am I missing?

 

Hold on dude, is the engine from a 92-95 jdm sir2 obd1, I dont see how u are going to pass with the usdm chasis being from a 98 obd2.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by La-Quiete &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hold on dude, is the engine from a 92-95 jdm sir2 obd1, I dont see how u are going to pass with the usdm chasis being from a 98 obd2. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea its an sir2 obd1, but can't i convert it to a obd2? and how would the ref know the year of the motor? I don't even know the exact year.

 

Serial number shows year of motor im sure. But you should ask ref first if you can convert to obd2, because there is always a way for a ref to find out if ur trying to expletive him over.

engine has to be 98 + , and no matter what ur engien isnt 98+

sell me the engine.


Modified by La-Quiete at 9:33 PM 11/11/2006

 

dont waste ur time trying to convert ur motor to obd2

since ur car is a 98
you have to have a 98+ motor

Theres no way around that!

If you wanna stick with a b16
Look for a b16a2
The longblocks are cheap & easy to come by...

 

im in murrieta, hit me up if ya need any help sourcing parts


Modified by spork motorsports at 9:47 PM 11/11/2006

 

i guess i'll be trying to sell or trade my motor for a us spec. what would I need to do to my wiring and everything else to make a b16a2 work in my car. keep in mind i bought the car as is and thats why i'm asking questions like that. Thanks to everyone though.

 

ttt

 

i think you dont need to do much exept for take that guys jumperharness out replace with the factory one,

 

Hey I could probaly get ya to pass this "Bar'd" process. You would have to find out what ecu you would need, but I know how to properly convert it to spec.