ok, i went to see a acura type S, sticker says 180whp and 140wtq.

then my friend told me about a type S having 220whp and 180wtq.

was my friend bullshitting? or what. Do the newer type S's have really that much more power? arrg. i mean seriously, 220 WHP, **** I would probably dust most cars out on the road. I mean thats stock! unbelievable.

whats your theory?

 

TMK, the only car that has the claimed 220 or so is the Integra Type R DC5 from Japan. It has the K20A, which is rated at 220 HP.

However, the K20Z1, found in the newer Type S, is rated at 201 Crank HP.... So therefore, no USDM Type S puts out 220 WHP stock.

The newer Type S comes with the following specs:

Engine Size: 2 liters
Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 201 hp
Max Horsepower: 7800 rpm
Torque: 140 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 7000 rpm

And here are the specs on the JDM ITR:

Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1998)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 220(162) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 152(206) / 7000

 

actually the dc5 has the k20a2 and the new civic si has the k20z1 fyi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4everVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the dc5 has the k20a2 and the new civic si has the k20z1 fyi</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, you are wrong.

The FG2 '06 Si has the K20Z3

The 05 and 06 (and I think the 04) Type S has the K20Z1.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1759092

 

no the 05 has a k20a2. and the 06 has the k20z1.

 

According to Wikipedia and my past readings, the Z1 started in 2005.

From Wikipedia: 05+ K20Z1 RSX Type S USDM

 

02-04 rsx type s has k20a2
05-06 type s has k20z1
06+ si has k20z3
me = I win

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reebs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no the 05 has a k20a2. and the 06 has the k20z1. </TD></TR></TABLE>

05-06=z1

 

acura claims for the k20z1 to have 210 CHP for the 05-06 type s

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rawsx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">me = I win</TD></TR></TABLE>

Um, not really....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4everVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually the dc5 has the k20a2 and the new civic si has the k20z1 fyi</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then I posted:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Miracle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually, you are wrong.

The FG2 '06 Si has the K20Z3

The 05 and 06 (and I think the 04) Type S has the K20Z1.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1759092</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

wow who cares? just tell the poor guy that his friend is full of **** end of story.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rawsx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">02-04 rsx type s has k20a2
05-06 type s has k20z1
06+ si has k20z3
me = I win</TD></TR></TABLE>

He wins.

Anyhow, to the OP, no car manufacturer measures HP @ the wheels. WHP = wheel horsepower. Horsepower is measured at the crank.

So when you see 201 HP, that figure is taken at the crank. HP to the wheels will always be about 10%-15% less due to drivetrain losses.

So yes, someone has no clue what they are talking about. I think both parties are to blame.