do you guys know how 215 will fit on the 7j wide rims.
doing this basicly because of the grip and the added rim protection.

now i have a choice of rubber where i live (holland), not seeking for ultimate grip with totally sacrificing durability. something more then the 9 k my last set lasted would be nice (nankang 195/55/15, worse wear, decent grip, great price )
the ones that are in my pricerange are:

Kumho ECSTA SPT KU31 for 67.60 euro a piece
Falken ZE-512 for 70.20 euro a piece
Hankook VENTUS SPORT K104 for 71.60 euro a piece
Toyo PROXES T1-R for 75.80 euro a piece
Falken FK-452 for 76.40 euro a piece

now the only ones i had actually had experience with were 195/55/15 toyo proxes. i know they're great!
but kumho, falken and hankook are quite unknown here in holland and not many use them. what are you're experiences with them?

such as wear, sidewall hardness, compound softness, grip, etc.

 

215 is pretty wide for a tire and could cause rubbing problems, the widest i would go would be 205, unless you are using wheel spacers, but then fender clearance issues come up, how much are you lowered?

i have the kumho SPT's and i love em, they're not as sticky as the falken azenis 615 or the hankook RS2, but they last a lot longer and are cheaper. the toyo t1-r is a good tire as well, im surprised its cheaper than the fk 452 since they should be more expensive then falken 615rt and the hankook rs2, i would get the t1-r if it were me, but im not sure about the treadlife on it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by super_nguyen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">215 is pretty wide for a tire and could cause rubbing problems, the widest i would go would be 205, unless you are using wheel spacers, but then fender clearance issues come up, how much are you lowered?

i have the kumho SPT's and i love em, they're not as sticky as the falken azenis 615 or the hankook RS2, but they last a lot longer and are cheaper. the toyo t1-r is a good tire as well, im surprised its cheaper than the fk 452 since they should be more expensive then falken 615rt and the hankook rs2, i would get the t1-r if it were me, but im not sure about the treadlife on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll probably just run 215 in the front and 205 in the rear. rubbing won't be a problem, plenty of room with a good offset 7 j rim. and i'm going 1 piece frontend (homemade) so that won't be a problem to. the lowering part is just how much i want it to
i'm steering towards the toyo to because i know what they can do. but i don't know these other tires first hand so i don't want to rule them out just yet.

anyone else with exp on these?????

 

215 is too big for a car that uses 195/55-15. Get the proper size for your car. That means 205/40-17, not 215.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the ones that are in my pricerange are:

Kumho ECSTA SPT KU31 for 67.60 euro a piece
Falken ZE-512 for 70.20 euro a piece
Hankook VENTUS SPORT K104 for 71.60 euro a piece
Toyo PROXES T1-R for 75.80 euro a piece
Falken FK-452 for 76.40 euro a piece</TD></TR></TABLE>

The first question to ask is whether you need to drive your car in winter conditions (snow and temperatures well below freezing) as well as in moderate to warm temperatures. If so, then you need an all-season tire; I recommend the Kumho Ecsta ASX instead of the Falken Ziex ZE-512 all-season tire. If not, then you need a summer tire such as one of the others.

If you need a summer tire, then get the Kumho SPT. It's better than the Hankook and Falken, and as good as the Toyo, but costs less.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">215 is too big for a car that uses 195/55-15. Get the proper size for your car. That means 205/40-17, not 215.
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won't be running 215/40/17 (radius is too big), and 17's are a bit to heavy for me!

as i said in my thread title, 16 inch 7j wide with a 215/40/16 tire. the 215's will be in the front so rubbing won't be a problem (going onepiece frontend made by me )

and thnx for the info on the spt's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">won't be running 215/40/17 (radius is too big), and 17's are a bit to heavy for me!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oops! Sorry!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">16 inch 7j wide with a 215/40/16 tire.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're better off with 205/45-16 or 215/45-16.

 

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You're better off with 205/45-16 or 215/45-16.
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why? i like the extra traction of the 215

the 215/45/16 was my first choice, sligthly bigger radius but not a big problem. but the 215/45/16 is hella expensive over here. 136 euro (174$) for a tyre is a little bit expensive and useless knowing my drivingstyle

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because it won't create error in your speedometer and odometer. You need to get tires whose diameter is as close as possible to the stock size. The right sizes are 205/45-16 and 215/45-16, both of which are less than 1 percent difference in diameter from the stock size. 215/40 is MUCH too small (almost 3 percent smaller diameter than stock). That's a big difference!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like the extra traction of the 215</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is ZERO difference in traction between a 215/45 and a 215/40, and the difference between a 205/45 and a 215/40 is insignificant and imperceptible.

You're forgetting this basic fact: A higher performance tire in a slightly narrower size will out-perform a lower performance tire in a wider size. If you're looking for better performance, concentrate on getting better, stickier tires, rather than wider tires.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolve &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 215/45/16 is hella expensive over here.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That may be because of the specific tires that are offered in that size. Concentrate on what tire you want, and then see how much it costs in the PROPER sizes, which are 215/45-16 or 205/45-16. How much are the tires in 205/45-16?

 

good info, i'll look into it