Honda Prelude All Model Preludes

1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:37 PM
  #1  
Propulsion's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,470
Likes: 0
From: Norcal
Default 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner?

Simple question, if you know it...
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:37 PM
  #2  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Propulsion)

all h22's have an auto
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 10:47 PM
  #3  
Propulsion's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,470
Likes: 0
From: Norcal
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (98vtec)

thanks for the quick reply. I guess it's time to get my shopping list together for the manual tensioner swap.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:04 AM
  #4  
rocket30004's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: MI, United States
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Propulsion)

well since i'm an h22a noob, perhaps you guys can elaborate on why change to the manual tensioner (i'm assuming the auto one is subject to premature failure...? [and if so, did honda ever release an updated part?] )
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
  #5  
OaksRacing's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 623
Likes: 0
From: Denver, co, usa
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (rocket30004)

We have ran both manual and auto - we have not had any problems with either set up.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:21 AM
  #6  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (OaksRacing)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OaksRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have ran both manual and auto - we have not had any problems with either set up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but you know that the auto's have their issues. Especially when you add a set of stiffer valvesprings.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:33 AM
  #7  
DCFIVER's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,836
Likes: 37
From: Looking for SloMofo....
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (OaksRacing)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but you know that the auto's have their issues. Especially when you add a set of stiffer valvesprings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true. Thats great that Oaks Racing has not had any problems but the potential for tensioner failure is real. Why risk engine damage when for under $200 you can buy insurance in the form of a manual tensioner.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:48 AM
  #8  
BB2H22's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: North Little Rock, AR, USA
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (rocket30004)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocket30004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well since i'm an h22a noob, perhaps you guys can elaborate on why change to the manual tensioner (i'm assuming the auto one is subject to premature failure...? [and if so, did honda ever release an updated part?] )</TD></TR></TABLE>

They're just know to have problems. Its has a little hydrolic piston that keeps tension on the belt. Put enough of a beating on it, it'll probably go bad. You can get a manual tensioner off of an H23 or F22.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:02 PM
  #9  
Propulsion's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 3,470
Likes: 0
From: Norcal
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (BB2H22)

what's the cost difference b/t replacing the auto tensioner vs. changing to a manual?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:10 PM
  #10  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Propulsion)

a new auto tensioner itself is 70 dollars.

manual tensioner is about 50 dollars.

its going to come out to around the same price and an added insurance with the manual tensioner.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:13 PM
  #11  
Televator's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,319
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (98vtec)

I sleep easy at night just knowing the motor I bought already came with the Manual Tensioner. Better safe than sorry I always say.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:27 PM
  #12  
Pilky's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Televator)

Question: If you bring your car to the dealer for timing belt service they still use the auto tensioners correct?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:35 PM
  #13  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Pilky)

yes
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:04 PM
  #14  
Pilky's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (98vtec)

Does Honda do the manual tensioner if you ask them?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 04:08 PM
  #15  
XRSLUDE's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: LIHUE, HI, KAUAI
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Televator)

Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 04:09 PM
  #16  
asdfsad's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (Pilky)

No honda wont do the auto to manual tensioners.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 04:36 PM
  #17  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: 1996 JDM H22a -- Auto or Manual Tensioner? (asdfsad)

if you have a friend there or you have a cool dealership (and not one that tries to rip you off) they will. But 9/10 times they will not.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:21 PM
  #18  
BB2H22's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: North Little Rock, AR, USA
Default

They wont because its covered under warranty and they wont risk not putting it back together with the same parts it came in with.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:32 PM
  #19  
pinecone's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,359
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte/Hope Mills, NC
Default Re: (BB2H22)

So the f22a1 has a manual tensioner? Does it swap easily to the h22a?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:39 PM
  #20  
98vtec's Avatar
moderator emeritus
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 16,357
Likes: 6
From: Cantonment, FL
Default Re: (pinecone)

its the same as the h23
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:00 PM
  #21  
typeS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: North California, CA, usa
Default Re: (98vtec)

Can someone clarify for me what the F22 has. I have a 1994, prelude S with F22. I have a ticking sound that isn't valves and I've been wondering if its around the timing belt. Thanks.


How is the manual tensioner adjusted too?
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:10 AM
  #22  
BB2H22's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: North Little Rock, AR, USA
Default Re: (typeS)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by typeS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can someone clarify for me what the F22 has. I have a 1994, prelude S with F22. I have a ticking sound that isn't valves and I've been wondering if its around the timing belt. Thanks.


How is the manual tensioner adjusted too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

F22 = Manual tensioner. The ticking... I have no Idea what that is but its not the tensioner. The manual tensioner adjusts itself. Its very easy to do with the motor out of the car, a little more difficult with it in.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:37 AM
  #23  
typeS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
From: North California, CA, usa
Default Re: (BB2H22)

Is this something that I should be adjusting and if so how often? How do I adjust it? I've looked in the search but haven't found anything descriptive enough. Thanks.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:10 PM
  #24  
alterdcreations's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,789
Likes: 0
From: Single camshafting for now in, N.Y.
Default Re: (typeS)

http://www.montrealracing.com/...00284
very good walk thru and parts list
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FrostyDC4
Acura NSX
19
Dec 5, 2005 08:04 PM
tuoniz
Tech / Misc
4
Oct 28, 2005 01:22 PM
abeaujuin
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
5
Jul 24, 2004 05:27 AM
Tad
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
20
Jun 5, 2004 01:11 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:07 AM.