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mugen intake
looking to buy an intake and was thinking about the mugen. does anyone have any experience with it? i know its mugen so its supposed to be top notch. but are the gains that much more then lets say a AEM cold air? any input will be appriciated. thanks 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Darren- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do you want that particular intake??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because it says Mugen on it.
Yes Mugen makes some top notch stuff, but there are some better options out there.
I find Mugen to usually be overpriced etc for what you get.
Because it says Mugen on it.
Yes Mugen makes some top notch stuff, but there are some better options out there.
I find Mugen to usually be overpriced etc for what you get.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Darren- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do you want that particular intake??</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Free-flowing filter & box, stock-like throttle response, no heatsoak, no hydrolock, draws fresh air from right behind the grille... it does a lot of things really well, and is one of the best options out there for an intake, IMO.
If you have the cash laying around, go for it. If you don't, you'll get much of the same benefit by gutting the stock box, installing a high-performance filter, and either buying the Vision intake duct or fabricating a copy yourself.
If you have the cash laying around, go for it. If you don't, you'll get much of the same benefit by gutting the stock box, installing a high-performance filter, and either buying the Vision intake duct or fabricating a copy yourself.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BarracksSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Free-flowing filter & box, stock-like throttle response, no heatsoak, no hydrolock, draws fresh air from right behind the grille... it does a lot of things really well, and is one of the best options out there for an intake, IMO.
If you have the cash laying around, go for it. If you don't, you'll get much of the same benefit by gutting the stock box, installing a high-performance filter, and either buying the Vision intake duct or fabricating a copy yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put, the Mugen airbox is made for all around gains, not just peak power. Great throttle respone, It doesn't dyno that great because you really need to be moving for the intake to work to it's full abilities.
If you have the cash laying around, go for it. If you don't, you'll get much of the same benefit by gutting the stock box, installing a high-performance filter, and either buying the Vision intake duct or fabricating a copy yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put, the Mugen airbox is made for all around gains, not just peak power. Great throttle respone, It doesn't dyno that great because you really need to be moving for the intake to work to it's full abilities.
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Actually, it dynoed well for me (at least I think it probably did). Its lower intake scoop sits on top of my EP's radiator, which means that it's getting air from in front of the radiator -- which is air that hasn't been heated up yet and is always within a degree or two of ambient temperature.
Anyway, it's much more tractable & useful than the V2 I had on the car for almost a year. That thing turned the car into a pig in summer traffic.
Anyway, it's much more tractable & useful than the V2 I had on the car for almost a year. That thing turned the car into a pig in summer traffic.
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thanks for all the input guys i used to have a 03 rsx and had an aem SRI on it and wasnt to happy with it, didnt do much, i know the cold air is much better, but i just want to spend the extra money on my 06 RSX and buy the top notch parts for it, so i have no regrets of "oh i should of just saved up the extra money and went for the better product" type of thing. and i plan on having this car for a really long time
i used to have a 03 rsx and had an aem SRI on it and wasnt to happy with it, didnt do much, i know the cold air is much better, but i just want to spend the extra money on my 06 RSX and buy the top notch parts for it, so i have no regrets of "oh i should of just saved up the extra money and went for the better product" type of thing. and i plan on having this car for a really long time
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
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CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
- Derek
CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.
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Just buy a comptech Icebox and save yourself some money. The Mugen intake was designed for the JDM car because of where it picks up 'cold air'. On the USDM cars it does not work quite as well.
I've owned a Mugen intake and currently I am running a comptech icebox. Neither will make the HP of a true CAI, but the icebox is also much safer.
I've owned a Mugen intake and currently I am running a comptech icebox. Neither will make the HP of a true CAI, but the icebox is also much safer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
- Derek
CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said d-rob, thats what i needed to hear
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
- Derek
CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.
</TD></TR></TABLE>well said d-rob, thats what i needed to hear
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't drag much anymore, and honestly, a V2 would be better for drag than the Mugen box. Autocrossing, on the other hand, is where throttle response is much more important, and I haven't yet experienced a tube-style intake that has quick, clean response like either the stock airbox or the Mugen. It also helps when squirting through traffic -- you don't have to wait for it to really "go".
What actually sold me on going with the Mugen was when I took both my V2 and the stock box to a test & tune day at the strip. E/T's between the two intakes weren't different enough to really count (my own driving was inconsistent enough that the intakes weren't a factor). However, after my first run with the stock box, after picking up my timeslip from the timing shack, I decided to just punch it for a quick burst to see what would happen. I was totally surprised to feel the car jerk forward, which it had NEVER done while I had the V2 installed. I drove with the stock box for the next few weeks, and I was happy to have regained the responsiveness that I hadn't had for the previous year.
I figured, since the stock box makes the car respond like I wanted, the Mugen box should be even better. Frankly, I haven't been disappointed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's a good point there... That's why I also suggested fabricating a scoop, gutting the stock box, and installing a high-performance filter.
I don't drag much anymore, and honestly, a V2 would be better for drag than the Mugen box. Autocrossing, on the other hand, is where throttle response is much more important, and I haven't yet experienced a tube-style intake that has quick, clean response like either the stock airbox or the Mugen. It also helps when squirting through traffic -- you don't have to wait for it to really "go".
What actually sold me on going with the Mugen was when I took both my V2 and the stock box to a test & tune day at the strip. E/T's between the two intakes weren't different enough to really count (my own driving was inconsistent enough that the intakes weren't a factor). However, after my first run with the stock box, after picking up my timeslip from the timing shack, I decided to just punch it for a quick burst to see what would happen. I was totally surprised to feel the car jerk forward, which it had NEVER done while I had the V2 installed. I drove with the stock box for the next few weeks, and I was happy to have regained the responsiveness that I hadn't had for the previous year.
I figured, since the stock box makes the car respond like I wanted, the Mugen box should be even better. Frankly, I haven't been disappointed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's a good point there...
That's why I also suggested fabricating a scoop, gutting the stock box, and installing a high-performance filter.
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Yeah Mugen parts cannot be justified in terms of cost/benefit, same can be said for a lot of things. A TAG Heuer won't tell time any better than a Casio and a pair of 36Ds are too big for your mouth anyway, but hey, nothing wrong with lusting for either one of 'em (girls, replace "36Ds" with "9 inches"). If you want to be purely practical, stay bone stock.
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d-rob you once again prove why i hang out with you lol
hey filson why exactly wernt you happy with the SRI, i dont really want cold air, it scares me, too muuch money to go hydrolocking my new motor...( yes i know it would be a 1 in a million chance like forging a river in the car or sumthing buti dont want to risk it)
i was just gonna go with the AEM SRI and put a heat cover towards the motor, any thoughts anybody? i like mugen , gives you that extra quality and showman ship in your car forus JDM nuts, but i haveto agree with everyone else it is just a box basicly in carbon fiber, and it costs like *** , lemme know what your desicion is justin
hey filson why exactly wernt you happy with the SRI, i dont really want cold air, it scares me, too muuch money to go hydrolocking my new motor...( yes i know it would be a 1 in a million chance like forging a river in the car or sumthing buti dont want to risk it)
i was just gonna go with the AEM SRI and put a heat cover towards the motor, any thoughts anybody? i like mugen , gives you that extra quality and showman ship in your car forus JDM nuts, but i haveto agree with everyone else it is just a box basicly in carbon fiber, and it costs like *** , lemme know what your desicion is justin
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
- Derek
CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahahahaha i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So true, and how many people even really drive their cars and i dont mean everyday driving im talking about serious hours at the track?? Well put man...
P.S. Drag racing is not racing, anyone can do it. and it ******* boring. just my opinion though.
I am simply amazed at the lack of intelligence in these model-specific forums.
The Mugen intake is simply a waste of money if you're looking for gains. Period. It's a bling-bling scoop made of carbon fiber.
If you want gains, invest in something with some length to it. (I.E. the AEM CAI), then spend the money on a good velocity stack and a quality filter that fits over it.
Honestly, out of everyone who has replied to this topic, how many of you actually do any form of racing in which "throttle response" would be a huge determining factor on the performance of your vehicle? Drag racing doesn't need "throttle response."
All the responses I have seen lately around here have been from ricers-in-disguise who read into what magazine articles or advertisements claim as truth.
/rant
- Derek
CLIFFS: Don't buy the overpriced mad tizzite JDM bling Mugen intake. Save a couple hundred bucks and buy an AEM/Injen/what-have-you, and put the money you saved towards a night out with some friends or your girlfriend.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hahahahahaha i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So true, and how many people even really drive their cars and i dont mean everyday driving im talking about serious hours at the track?? Well put man...
P.S. Drag racing is not racing, anyone can do it. and it ******* boring. just my opinion though.
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P.S. Drag racing is not racing, anyone can do it. and it ******* boring. just my opinion though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny. Tell that to John Force?
GTFO.
P.S. Drag racing is not racing, anyone can do it. and it ******* boring. just my opinion though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny. Tell that to John Force?
GTFO.
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Funny. Tell that to John Force?
GTFO. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ok but im talking about all the "street racers" out there that think their all that with their joke *** cars. And why do they always rev up on you? i never got that? what does that mean? you like my car or do you just want your *** handed to you because your car is a terd. lol i just hate when people do that to me.
Funny. Tell that to John Force?
GTFO.
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok but im talking about all the "street racers" out there that think their all that with their joke *** cars. And why do they always rev up on you? i never got that? what does that mean? you like my car or do you just want your *** handed to you because your car is a terd. lol i just hate when people do that to me.
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peak hp is fine if ur heavy into drag ..
but if u do any other type of spirited driving other than straight line racing ..
throttle resopnse is more important than peak hp gains ..
id rather have a product that increases midrange hp and torque over a broad range across the power band than a product that increases hp just at the peak in a narrow rpm window ..
but then again this is just my opinion..
but if u do any other type of spirited driving other than straight line racing ..
throttle resopnse is more important than peak hp gains ..
id rather have a product that increases midrange hp and torque over a broad range across the power band than a product that increases hp just at the peak in a narrow rpm window ..
but then again this is just my opinion..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killaj12 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but if u do any other type of spirited driving other than straight line racing ..
throttle resopnse is more important than peak hp gains ..
id rather have a product that increases midrange hp and torque over a broad range across the power band than a product that increases hp just at the peak in a narrow rpm window .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BarracksSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't drag much anymore, and honestly, a V2 would be better for drag than the Mugen box. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Long ago, I also heard on one of these forums (here, or ephatch or k-series) that the reason why the Mugen box was a closed design was because open-filter intakes weren't allowed in Japanese racing series, or at least wherever this intake was intended to run. I don't know that for sure, though, so I don't bother listing it as a "benefit".
throttle resopnse is more important than peak hp gains ..
id rather have a product that increases midrange hp and torque over a broad range across the power band than a product that increases hp just at the peak in a narrow rpm window .. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I said:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BarracksSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't drag much anymore, and honestly, a V2 would be better for drag than the Mugen box. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Long ago, I also heard on one of these forums (here, or ephatch or k-series) that the reason why the Mugen box was a closed design was because open-filter intakes weren't allowed in Japanese racing series, or at least wherever this intake was intended to run. I don't know that for sure, though, so I don't bother listing it as a "benefit".
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andresmirt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about an ARC intake? is that any different than the mugen one? it always appealed to me but i never knew anyone who had it to tell if it was worth it or not...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its different in the fact that it is made out of Aluminum, and the actual panel filter is exposed whereas on the mugen the filter is enclosed in the box.
Its different in the fact that it is made out of Aluminum, and the actual panel filter is exposed whereas on the mugen the filter is enclosed in the box.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andresmirt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does that make it better...? 
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No. I think it looks better though, the ARC that is.
</TD></TR></TABLE>No. I think it looks better though, the ARC that is.