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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Default Big power guys ... head-bolt question...

Hey guys

Quick question... All you 600whp+ guys do you run custom 1/2" arp head studs or you go with ge, arp, or aebs standards???

I have been hearing mixed stories on what to do with the new setup ...
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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1/2" L19 studs
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Thats what I thought ...

Do you just have the head holes re-drilled and the block drilled and tapped (or heli-coiled) at any machine shop or is there more that needs done ??
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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I use regular arp studs,and neverhad a problem,boosting as much as 37psi.
I just dont use them more then twice.
I try not to use the 1/2 in studs cause if it detonates i'd rather blow a head gasket then kick a rod out.
No offense but dont like the G.E. cause of the nipple at the end.I've seen alot of guys misuse them and crack the outer sidewall of the blocks.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Just have them drilled and tapped. Get the L19 material studs and tq to 100 ft lbs. Dont know if this is what everyone else does but I did as I was told by a couple very fast pro guys.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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dont they sell the L19 in stock thread?
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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And please dont overtorque the studs into the block.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Stock Honda ARP's here...50psi and still holding up
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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How much did you torque them down to?

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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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I used stock ARP..
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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golden eagles at 80ftq for me
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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aebs never had a problem with any of them, aebs and arp i havent used the ge but i dont see the harm in them either
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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ARP studs here
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by qksl2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much did you torque them down to?

Ian</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll have to re-confirm, but I believe ARP recommend 86ft/lbs. for b-series
I still have my ARP box laying around, or I'll double check on ARP's website.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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I torque mine in steps 35-65-80 lbs...don't ask me why, I just do!!!
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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stock arp's are like 62 or 65 ftq not 86
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vaporboy12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock arp's are like 62 or 65 ftq not 86</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct, I was thinking 68ft/tq for ls/vtec, thanks for the correction
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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I've never built a high hp B-series, but I was running stock head bolts on my H22A. It went 144 mph in a 2550 lb car, it was right around 600 hp. I run off the shelf ARP studs on the K. They've been retorqued quite a few times, the head has been off at least six times that I can remember. I hit 40 psi in 5th gear because I broke 4th gear at one race. It was also good for 150 mph in Pomona last month, same 2550 lb car.

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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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So all you guys running the stock arp's just step torque them to about 80 (with the lube or with plain motor oil??) ??

If it works I would much rather do that than try to find a machine shop that can do this from previous experience... my guy said he could, but has not and I would rather not waste a good sleeved block.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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I run shelf stock ARP in Staceys NA k22. Tq to 72 on oil.
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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i use moly coat on my head studs
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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EVERY CAR I NO AROUND ME ARE JUST USING THE ARP'S AND NO PROBLEMS TO DATE
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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I use arp or aebs, torque to 72 lbs with moly lube. Over 800 whp, no problems yet.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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We have used ARP, and are using Golden Eagles now. Both work great, no issues here. Tourqed to what the instructions say. I see NO reason for the L19 1/2 inch studs...............but to each his own.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:55 AM
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we also run GE head studs with no dilema's. they've been torqed a few times too!
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