Starts with a 'D' I think....

 

Are you thinking of Dezod?

 

Yes, thanks

 

Would that be the place place to buy this?

http://www.neuspeed.com/produc...d=814

or is there a cheaper place? Its also gonna cost me like $50 to install it

 

You're better off waiting for one of the US guys opinions on this... i'm not up with all the best deals over there, i kinda live a long way away

 

I think Truehonda.com has the lowest prices on suspension pieces...Too lazy to check. I just got done installing Progress F&R sway bars

 

why not install urself? if u have the tools, installing them would be the easiest thing in the world

 

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http://www.neuspeed.com/produc...d=814

or is there a cheaper place? Its also gonna cost me like $50 to install it</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure you really need that piece for these cars. Have you seen 'legit' reviews saying that it helps? I'm not talking some ricer on 7th gen civic review, either.

The Neuspeed front upper bar helps the best. Not sure if you got that piece or not, but it is the best chassis bolt-on going.

 

IMO I think it's more for "looks". If you think about it, the subframe's one stiff piece already. The strut towers are what needs stiffening up.

 

I already got the upper strut, need the lower. ide install it myself but i dont have any jacks

 

i think its a little overkill. I think for suspension.

Coilovers
Rear sway,
Front Upper strut
rear upper and lower strut

Good enough:p

 

you saying I dont need a lower xbrace?

 

i dont think its necessary, as stated before. Its the upper strut that does the majority of the stiffening, the lower is already stiff from subframe.

 

I dont see how a lower strut bar is unnecessary.

 

The Civic/RSX/EP3 already has quite a stout bar running between the subframe down there. Take a look and you'll see it.

Honestly I don't know if you'd notice a difference with the bar you are talking about or not.

 

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Because the subframe is much stouter than the upper strut towers. It connects to the frame and body in more point, and it is made of a stiffer, more rigid metal than the shock towers. There will not be much flex between in interior area of the subframe.

Your main concern should be at the bushings that attach the suspension to the car itself, ie. control arm bushings, and sway bar bushings etc.

Anything else is kinda overkill. And besides, if, or when, you lower your car, it will scrape damn near everywhere.

 

I am not ricing my car.

Just improving handling performance.

I am not gonna lower it or out in a turbo.

I just want better handling.

So if not the lower strut, what else do you recommend that will significantly improve handling performance?

 

Polyurethane bushings, motor mount inserts if you don't mind a vibration, a torque dampener, rear sway, front upper bar, coilovers or shocks and spring combo, stickier tires.

 

I don't know what you have so far, but here's a nice list


Front Strut Tower Bars
Aftermarket Sway Bars w/ Aftermarket end links
Performance springs/struts or full coilovers
Polyurethane suspension bushings (Don't know if they make them for Em2)
Rear strut bar will help only if you get an aftermarket sway bar for the rear (because the rear one is significantly thicker then stock, there's more suspension deflection transferred to the rear strut towers), at least from what I've read. The rear of the car is already pretty stiff.

As for the tires/wheels part of it, get some lightweight 16 x 7.5"-8" rims and stuff tires as wide as possible.

 

A car will only start to stress when you put a lot of g-forces on it. With stock tires and stock suspension, upgrading chassis bars is going to do little to nothing because the tires and springs will not stress the chassis.

Now, put a 16x7" wheel on the car with Azenis and a good set of coilovers, then chassis braces may start to help and give you something you'd notice.

You are not going to lower the car? if not, save the cash spent on the X-bar and get a set of Koni shocks. But I recommend a set of Koni shocks and H&R sport springs. They make quite a nice setup.

And install an oem RSX 22mm rear swaybar while you're at it.

 

whats the price on new springs and shocks? under $800?

 

Depends on what you get. Look around, most of the time sites offer specials and combo deals on springs/struts

 

i got my H&R springs for $100 Canadian, used. Thats like $70-80 USD. Struts are a lot more, but ive seen koni's on ebay for 600-700.

 

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you're all over the place, you just said above that you weren't going to lower it. just search on your own man, look at whats out there, see the prices, then search for reviews. it's simple. i'm not sure if anyone will search around for prices for you, unless maybe redem2 does it.

anyways, on topic. the bar helps a bit. if your car is lowered i dont recommend this.

we installed it on my friends car like 2yrs ago, his car is lowered like 2", the bar has rusted over from scratches, and will need to be hacked off now, it won't come out even if we tried.

your price posted was too expensive, my friend bought it from truehonda. $300 is a lot for a bar that goes under your car and doesn't do much to improve handling.

 

From what i've heard when modding suspension you "should" go in this order. Most people don't so do what you like.
1. Tires
2. Alignment
3. Dampers
4. Springs
5. Anti-roll bars
6. Chassis braces