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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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My car have been making this weird clicking knocking sound lately. I been trying to figure out what's going on by taking the head apart and the valve seems to be ok. Now I have a bigger problem. I now have oil in the cylinder 4 spark plug socket and it's coming up to the spark plug wire. Another thing is I have a breather filter for the engine and oil is bursting out of that too like small leak. When the car is warming up, I see white smoke coming out of the breather kinda like steam or something. Can someone tell me what's going on with it?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Your valve cover/spark plug galley seals are busted, that's why the oil's filling the plug galley like that. It's a common problem. Buy a new valvecover gasket set and it'll solve the problem.

Your PCV valve is plugged and that's why it's backing up vapor to vent to the atmosphere.

Fix both.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I already replace a new valvecover gasket not to long ago. So you say the white smoke is ok and normal right. And the Pcv valve is plug. I guess ill check the PCV tomorrow. But another thing is i have oil bursting out of the tiny air breather for the valve cover whenever i drive.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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valve stems maybe
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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The car runs and all but it idles really rough and oil comes of the spark plug wire and leak down to the block
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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just probably need a full gasket kit for you valve cover.oil should not leak if you gasket are bad.take of your intake check inside your throttlebody and check if you have wet oil residue.then it is valve stems
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Well i forgot i pretty much replace all the gasket there is to it except the valve stem. The guy where i got the cylinder head from told me the head is pretty clean and new.

I dont know if it has anything to do with the swap that i got. I just recently did a d15 with D16y8head mini me.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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your melted a piston or crack rings. the car sounds like a subaru oil is passing by the piston/rings in the combuston chamber. your spark plug may have been a little lose letting the oil pass by on the wire plugs. pull your headers off and you will see which cylindar is toast.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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I know it's piston number 4 for sure cuz oil is coming from there and it sounds like it's running with 3 cylinder. So are you saying i might have crack a piston? What about a plug pvc like what
Archidictus said. Any other things I should be aware of?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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chances are it's just a bad o ring on the spark plug tube. pull the valve cover back off and replace those 4 seals. they always go bad and leak oil into the tube. the clicking could be loose valves, try adjusting them and see if the noise is still noticable.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Did u check/replace the spark plug? I had similar problem, turned out to be a defective denso iridium plug I had just bought. Plug was sliding in and out of thread shaft which caused the weird clicking sound, loss of compression(like it was on 3cyl) and oil getting into tube/wires. Replacing the bad seals would not explain clicking sound but good to check that anyways.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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odds are since it is white smoke, you didn't blow your rings or a piston. then you would have black smoke. but to check the rings, do a compression test and if the numbers are the same across the cylinders than that's not your problem. I would pull the valve cover and check you lifters and make sure everything is tightened down properly and change your pcv valve. white smoke is really not ok and normal, it usually shows a blown headgasket or somehow water is in your oil.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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everytime i had heavy white smoke & oil coming out of my valve cover breather it was from rings/pistons.
he said he replaced all the gaskets already.

if nothing mentioned has fixed the problem you should take the head off so u can see for sure whats going on.

keep us updated
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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I guess i have to take the head off whenever im off from school. maybe this weekend. I just hope i dont blow a piston or bent valves or throw a bearing. But a leak o ring on the spark plug sounds logical. I might have to loook into that. But the funny thing is i have oil gushing out of the valve cover breather whenever i drive. Before the engine warm up i have small white smoke coming out of the breather and the car idles rough like a subaru. What could be the cause of this?
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by proliant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess i have to take the head off whenever im off from school. maybe this weekend. I just hope i dont blow a piston or bent valves or throw a bearing. But a leak o ring on the spark plug sounds logical. I might have to loook into that. But the funny thing is i have oil gushing out of the valve cover breather whenever i drive. Before the engine warm up i have small white smoke coming out of the breather and the car idles rough like a subaru. What could be the cause of this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There should be no breather on the VC, if there is hook it back up the way it's supposed to be. The way a Honda works is that air is forced INTO the VC and comes OUT of the block and through the PCV. If you're just running one of those stupid little K&N type air filters on your VC it's hooked up wrong. Fix the PCV system first.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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when the car idles pull out the dip stick if your get smoke coming out its internal. then you can beat the brakes off the car cause you need a rebuild
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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internal like what. I do know it's something wrong with piston 4
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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take it to a mechanic and have him preform a compression/leak down test to make sure either the piston or the rings are fried in cylinder four. If so be prepared to dump the bottom end or rebuild it.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UberMunkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">chances are it's just a bad o ring on the spark plug tube. pull the valve cover back off and replace those 4 seals.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what I said at the beginning, but this ******* moron didn't understand it.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Sounds like you simply have a bad seal. Oil and dirt in there is probably not allowing the spark to be transfered the the plug which is causing the running on 3 cyl.
Sounds like you have pressure in the motor, change your PCV first, if it continues, rings.
white smoke when first starting up is probably just condensation in the valve cover (since you opt to leave it open to the elements) burning off as it warms up. BTW, oil smoke is bluish, NOT black (which is fuel) like some guy posted.
Sounds like you really need to just let a mechanic handle it since you don't seem to grasp the basics and keep going in random directions on what you want to do. Start with the basics first, don't pull the damn head yet.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's what I said at the beginning, but this ******* moron didn't understand it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe if we keep saying it he'll listen to us...


...but probably not
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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no it's not that im not listening it just some guy said it might be some other problem and i didnt know which approach to go for.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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go the approach that 3 or 4 people have told you to. Check the spark plug tube seals
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jagolas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go the approach that 3 or 4 people have told you to. Check the spark plug tube seals</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, do the one that costs a couple bucks vs tearing down an engine because you think it's blown.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Yea that's what i was hoping for. But i still gotta wait til the weekends to do anything.
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