i have looked at a few brake kits for my s2k. though about spoon any one else have these if so is it worth the money

 

according to spoon's website, yes they are worth the money, to answer your question.

 

what are you tryin to achieve? unlike a lot of cars, i seriously doubt that you can out brake the stock brake system. you will lose traction on your tires before your brakes give out.

a big brake kit won't necessarily stop your car any faster or shorter, in fact it may be a couple feet more.. but where big brake kits shine is their ability to resist fade and offer the same consistent pedal pressure lap after lap. i believe i read a test by comptech that after 5-6 pulls of 80-0 braking, the pedal began to become mushy on the stock system. they tested the brembo brake kit 80-0 and after 20+ pulls the feeling was the same and there was no fade. big brake kits can handle heat a lot better because the aluminum calipers dissipate heat much better than steel oem brakes.

another advantage to big brake kits is the reduction of weight in each corner. after market calipers will usually save 3-5 lbs over stock calipers, and the rotors should save an additional 3-5lbs over stock rotors. add it up all together on all four corners and you come up with some significant unsprung weight savings.

if you want to stop faster, and keep your wallet fat, i recommend stainless steel lines, some new brake fluid(motul) and some new brake pads. there are many different options for brake pads depending on what kind of application you are looking for .. track or street.

also, spoon brakes wont fit under stock wheels, you would need spacers to make the calipers clear. the only big brake kit that will fit stock wheels are the wilwood kit. if you upgrade to bigger rims to clear the calipers, be sure to check the offsets for proper clearance.

 

stoptech and wilwood brake are the cheapest and most effective bbk out there.

 

not looking for cheap just looked at the spoon since with them you can still run factory wheels.. most others you have to run bigger wheels. mostly looking at road racing set ups

 

did you read my post at all... spoons wont fit under stocks without spacers. the only bbk that fits under stock are the wilwood 4 pot kit.

 

i read your post but by stock wheels i mean the spoon stock wheels my bad..or the mugen 17's that is what i was looking at running. what about rear has any one install spoon capilers on the rear thanks for all your info ,,

 

stock brakes work fine. most BBK's are no better than stock, and for daily driving the difference isnt night and day.

spoon calipers work great. they are a future mod for me. i dont need an expensive BBK.

 

Francesco
do hey make the spoon cailpers for the rear i have not ran across any yet but at a few shows one car had them on a nsx.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock brakes work fine. most BBK's are no better than stock, and for daily driving the difference isnt night and day.

spoon calipers work great. they are a future mod for me. i dont need an expensive BBK.</TD></TR></TABLE>

expensive bbk? let me add it up for you

spoon calipers /w brackets is gonna run you ~$1525-1575 shipped if you find the right groupbuy.
brake pads? gonna run you anywhere from $100 to $300 depending what you want to get.
stainless lines? $75
new rotors? anywhere from $300 to $500 dependin what you get

$1550 + $200 + $75 + $400 = $2225.

i got a brand new in box brembo gran turismo kit with slotted rotors for front and rear for $1925 shipped. if you want brakes the best bet is to buy used from someone else and find a good deal... like this for spoons:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...28350

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...55924

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by immortal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

expensive bbk? let me add it up for you

spoon calipers /w brackets is gonna run you ~$1525-1575 shipped if you find the right groupbuy.
brake pads? gonna run you anywhere from $100 to $300 depending what you want to get.
stainless lines? $75
new rotors? anywhere from $300 to $500 dependin what you get

$1550 + $200 + $75 + $400 = $2225.

i got a brand new in box brembo gran turismo kit with slotted rotors for front and rear for $1925 shipped. if you want brakes the best bet is to buy used from someone else and find a good deal... like this for spoons:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...28350

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...55924
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Price out an ENDLESS 6pot kit

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugencivic99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Francesco
do hey make the spoon cailpers for the rear i have not ran across any yet but at a few shows one car had them on a nsx.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do they make them for the rear, no. Can you use fronts in the rear, im pretty sure you can. I think one guy on s2ki had spoons front/rear. I think he made a new bracket for the rears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do they make them for the rear, no. Can you use fronts in the rear, im pretty sure you can. I think one guy on s2ki had spoons front/rear. I think he made a new bracket for the rears.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah he had to hackup the rear i think. i will tell you first hand that the Spoons stop better than stock. It might be like 20 feet but 1-3 is still better. Ask me how i know...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugencivic99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i read your post but by stock wheels i mean the spoon stock wheels my bad..or the mugen 17's that is what i was looking at running. what about rear has any one install spoon capilers on the rear thanks for all your info ,,</TD></TR></TABLE>

spoon stock wheels? wtf. And why would you want to run spoon calipers in the rear?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM knowledge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah he had to hackup the rear i think. i will tell you first hand that the Spoons stop better than stock. It might be like 20 feet but 1-3 is still better. Ask me how i know...</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, I know you have them. I want to get them, but I honestly do not want to run a 15mm spacer and extended studs with my VOLKS. Im gonna try to pick up a low offset rim such as the 16'' WORK emotion forged next time a set is up for sale.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evil vapor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

spoon stock wheels? wtf. And why would you want to run spoon calipers in the rear?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I never understood either with the s2000. Alot of people want to upgrade the rear brakes, and I cant see why. I understand its a RWD car with almost perfect weight distribution, but the motor is still at the front. The front brakes apply more stopping pressure than the rears.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, I know you have them. I want to get them, but I honestly do not want to run a 15mm spacer and extended studs with my VOLKS. Im gonna try to pick up a low offset rim such as the 16'' WORK emotion forged next time a set is up for sale.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i know that part wasnt for you bud it was for "that" guy. It was random

 

your best bet would be to purchase....

stainless lines
more aggressive pads
and change the fluid.......

you will notice a huge difference in pedal feel and stopping power.....

but..... the biggest part of braking has to do w/ the tires.... if you have shitty tires do not expect stellar braking performance....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugencivic99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have looked at a few brake kits for my s2k. though about spoon any one else have these if so is it worth the money</TD></TR></TABLE>

For the bling, hell yes (however, and Endless or a Team Associated brake kit would be more bling)!!!

For the street, hell no. You'll never get to the potential of that "range of resisting brake fade" on the street at or under legal lawful limits. However, that being said, this past Spring, I had my car out at the Wake the Dragon event with the Spoon brakes for the first time (using some project Mu pads all around on OEM rotors). There was a notable difference in braking vs. the brake lights I was following in front of me through the event.

I, unfortunately, have to run 15mm spacers so that my MF10's clear the calipers (which I would assume negates the advantages of weight-loss with the calipers vs. OEM calipers. I'm thinking that the front wheels are sitting at a total of 30mm further outboard, and because of it, they increase work for the front struts due to the change of center of gravity on the control arms, thoughts?)).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by immortal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are you tryin to achieve? unlike a lot of cars, i seriously doubt that you can out brake the stock brake system. you will lose traction on your tires before your brakes give out.

a big brake kit won't necessarily stop your car any faster or shorter, in fact it may be a couple feet more.. but where big brake kits shine is their ability to resist fade and offer the same consistent pedal pressure lap after lap. i believe i read a test by comptech that after 5-6 pulls of 80-0 braking, the pedal began to become mushy on the stock system. they tested the brembo brake kit 80-0 and after 20+ pulls the feeling was the same and there was no fade. big brake kits can handle heat a lot better because the aluminum calipers dissipate heat much better than steel oem brakes.

another advantage to big brake kits is the reduction of weight in each corner. after market calipers will usually save 3-5 lbs over stock calipers, and the rotors should save an additional 3-5lbs over stock rotors. add it up all together on all four corners and you come up with some significant unsprung weight savings.

if you want to stop faster, and keep your wallet fat, i recommend stainless steel lines, some new brake fluid(motul) and some new brake pads. there are many different options for brake pads depending on what kind of application you are looking for .. track or street.

also, spoon brakes wont fit under stock wheels, you would need spacers to make the calipers clear. the only big brake kit that will fit stock wheels are the wilwood kit. if you upgrade to bigger rims to clear the calipers, be sure to check the offsets for proper clearance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

BEST ADVICE IN THIS THREAD!!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evil vapor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

spoon stock wheels? wtf. And why would you want to run spoon calipers in the rear?</TD></TR></TABLE>

For extreme blingage, and ultra-cool JDM factor (man, you must be getting old). This ain't the day and age that you and I came from (ain't your/our daddy's S2000's (where we are the "daddy's"). I still remember when the first person that mounted TE37's on his S2000 back in the day and posted pics on S2Ki. He got such flack and beat-up by others opinions for moddding the S2K).

And for the OP:


Titillating, ain't it?

 

cant pass up good deals

 

I have the wilwood kit on my civic...they work (so far) very well and fit under 15" rims...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by immortal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are you tryin to achieve? unlike a lot of cars, i seriously doubt that you can out brake the stock brake system. you will lose traction on your tires before your brakes give out.

a big brake kit won't necessarily stop your car any faster or shorter, in fact it may be a couple feet more.. but where big brake kits shine is their ability to resist fade and offer the same consistent pedal pressure lap after lap. i believe i read a test by comptech that after 5-6 pulls of 80-0 braking, the pedal began to become mushy on the stock system. they tested the brembo brake kit 80-0 and after 20+ pulls the feeling was the same and there was no fade. big brake kits can handle heat a lot better because the aluminum calipers dissipate heat much better than steel oem brakes.

another advantage to big brake kits is the reduction of weight in each corner. after market calipers will usually save 3-5 lbs over stock calipers, and the rotors should save an additional 3-5lbs over stock rotors. add it up all together on all four corners and you come up with some significant unsprung weight savings.

if you want to stop faster, and keep your wallet fat, i recommend stainless steel lines, some new brake fluid(motul) and some new brake pads. there are many different options for brake pads depending on what kind of application you are looking for .. track or street.

also, spoon brakes wont fit under stock wheels, you would need spacers to make the calipers clear. the only big brake kit that will fit stock wheels are the wilwood kit. if you upgrade to bigger rims to clear the calipers, be sure to check the offsets for proper clearance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know what you are talking about , most people want some cool brake just for the look but they are not even coming close to the limit of the stock system.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the wilwood kit on my civic...they work (so far) very well and fit under 15" rims...

</TD></TR></TABLE>

My friend has WILWOOD on his s2000. He had some fitment issues. I dont think he was impressed at all since the fitment wasnt that good. WILWOOD is a nice kit though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My friend has WILWOOD on his s2000. He had some fitment issues. I dont think he was impressed at all since the fitment wasnt that good. WILWOOD is a nice kit though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats to bad. The fitment on the civic kit was excellent. Although im sure they sell 50 civic kits per 1 s2000 kit - and the s2000 with good pads doesnt really need much better brakes. The civics brakes are aweful.

liam

 

thanks guys for all the good info