looking to get HID's
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Re: looking to get HID's (Mrx733)
hey bro. i bought some off ebay for about $250. think they were by vertex design. very simple install. um the only thing is i didnt buy the bi-xenon bc it was an extra $150. which means, i only have lo-beams. but dude i dont even need hi-beams. people flash me during the day. and also you said yuo wanted 10 or 15k. thats way to high. the higher in k u go up, the dimmer the light is. i got 8000k, they are perfect. brighter than stock expensive car hids. pm me for more info.
12,000k is dimmer than 8,000k, which is dimmer than 4,600k (which is about the peak in luminescence). XXXXk is the Color Temperature, not the luminescence. 12,000k bulbs will be just about the same luminescence as your stock bulbs, if not, dimmer.
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Re: (Killtodie)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killtodie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not? i've been toying with the idea too.
plz dont flame here i'm just curious.
and as for color temputure. isint the higher it goes the more blue / viloet they get? i think 4500K is almost white. most Lumens for the buck.
why not? i've been toying with the idea too.
plz dont flame here i'm just curious.
and as for color temputure. isint the higher it goes the more blue / viloet they get? i think 4500K is almost white. most Lumens for the buck.
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The kelvin temperature does not mean the brightness of the HIDs, it simply means the colour output. 6000k would be a light blue, close to white colour. Close to 10000k will give you a purplish colour.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
From the XenonDepot: (LINK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HID / Xenon Technology:
HID Technology:
XENON HID lamps do not have a filament. Instead the light is created by an electrical discharge between two electrodes in an air tight tiny quartz capsule filled with xenon gas, mercury and metal halide salts. This improves durability as road vibrations can cause damage to coil lighting technologies. These light sources also produce a blue-white light that is safer because it is closer to natural daylight. The color temperature is approximately 4200 K compared to 3200 K for halogen. The increased light output from a 35 watt XENON HID lamp is approximately 80% more light then a 55 watt halogen bulb. The XENON HID system will also draw less power from your vehicles electrical system.
Temperature:
Color Temperature is a measurement in Degrees Kelvin that indicates the hue of a specific type of light source. Many people believe the misconception that colour temperature is a rating of the brightness of the bulb or HID kit. This belief is completely false. The reality of the matter is that the higher the colour temperature, the less useable light output you will obtain. A perfect example would be a black light. This light has a colour temperature of approx 12,000k and has almost no useable light or lumens output. Higher K kits such as 7000k, 7500k, etc. have been manufactured for individuals that are more concerned about the actual colour output of their lights as opposed to the actual useable light output they produce.
Chromaticity and Colour Temperature
Chromaticity (xy)
Degrees K = COLOUR ONLY Lumen= BRIGHTNESS
XYZ trisimulus values and the associated Yxy colour space form the foundation of the present system for numerical colour notation. The concept for the XYZ tristimulus values is based on the premise that all colours are seen as mixtures of these three primary colours. By defining the colour matching functions of a standard observer, the Commission Internationale de L'Eclairage (CIE), an international organization concerned with light and colour, provided the basis for colorimetry in 1931. The Tristimulus values XYZ are useful for specifying a colour, but the results are not easily visualized. The two-dimensional colour (x,y) diagram is taken from the Yxy colour space, in which Y is the lightness (and is identical to the tristimulus value Y) and x and y are the chromaticity coordinates calculated from the tristimulus values XYZ. The CIE x,y chromaticity diagram for this colour space is shown. In this diagram, achromatic colours are toward the center of the diagram, and the chroma or saturation increases toward the edges.
Colour Temperature (Tcp)
A black body (perfect radiant body) is an ideal object that absorbs all energy, changes its colour from red through yellow to white as its temperature increases. The absolute temperature T (K) of the black body is referred to as the colour temperature and colour by a locus (black body locus).
The above diagram is sometimes used to indicate the colour of a light source. Correlated colour temperature is used to apply the general idea of colour temperature to those colours that are close to, but not exactly on the blackbody locus. For instance, a light source which has a colour difference of 0.01 in the green direction (Duv) from a black body which has a colour temperature of 7,000K is indicated as having a correlated colour temperature of 7,000K + 0.01 (uv unit).</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HID / Xenon Technology:
HID Technology:
XENON HID lamps do not have a filament. Instead the light is created by an electrical discharge between two electrodes in an air tight tiny quartz capsule filled with xenon gas, mercury and metal halide salts. This improves durability as road vibrations can cause damage to coil lighting technologies. These light sources also produce a blue-white light that is safer because it is closer to natural daylight. The color temperature is approximately 4200 K compared to 3200 K for halogen. The increased light output from a 35 watt XENON HID lamp is approximately 80% more light then a 55 watt halogen bulb. The XENON HID system will also draw less power from your vehicles electrical system.
Temperature:
Color Temperature is a measurement in Degrees Kelvin that indicates the hue of a specific type of light source. Many people believe the misconception that colour temperature is a rating of the brightness of the bulb or HID kit. This belief is completely false. The reality of the matter is that the higher the colour temperature, the less useable light output you will obtain. A perfect example would be a black light. This light has a colour temperature of approx 12,000k and has almost no useable light or lumens output. Higher K kits such as 7000k, 7500k, etc. have been manufactured for individuals that are more concerned about the actual colour output of their lights as opposed to the actual useable light output they produce.
Chromaticity and Colour Temperature
Chromaticity (xy)
Degrees K = COLOUR ONLY Lumen= BRIGHTNESS
XYZ trisimulus values and the associated Yxy colour space form the foundation of the present system for numerical colour notation. The concept for the XYZ tristimulus values is based on the premise that all colours are seen as mixtures of these three primary colours. By defining the colour matching functions of a standard observer, the Commission Internationale de L'Eclairage (CIE), an international organization concerned with light and colour, provided the basis for colorimetry in 1931. The Tristimulus values XYZ are useful for specifying a colour, but the results are not easily visualized. The two-dimensional colour (x,y) diagram is taken from the Yxy colour space, in which Y is the lightness (and is identical to the tristimulus value Y) and x and y are the chromaticity coordinates calculated from the tristimulus values XYZ. The CIE x,y chromaticity diagram for this colour space is shown. In this diagram, achromatic colours are toward the center of the diagram, and the chroma or saturation increases toward the edges.
Colour Temperature (Tcp)
A black body (perfect radiant body) is an ideal object that absorbs all energy, changes its colour from red through yellow to white as its temperature increases. The absolute temperature T (K) of the black body is referred to as the colour temperature and colour by a locus (black body locus).
The above diagram is sometimes used to indicate the colour of a light source. Correlated colour temperature is used to apply the general idea of colour temperature to those colours that are close to, but not exactly on the blackbody locus. For instance, a light source which has a colour difference of 0.01 in the green direction (Duv) from a black body which has a colour temperature of 7,000K is indicated as having a correlated colour temperature of 7,000K + 0.01 (uv unit).</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: looking to get HID's (melikepaint)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by melikepaint »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey bro. i bought some off ebay for about $250. think they were by vertex design. very simple install. um the only thing is i didnt buy the bi-xenon bc it was an extra $150. which means, i only have lo-beams. but dude i dont even need hi-beams. people flash me during the day. and also you said yuo wanted 10 or 15k. thats way to high. the higher in k u go up, the dimmer the light is. i got 8000k, they are perfect. brighter than stock expensive car hids. pm me for more info.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Prove they are brighter than oem stock hid. Your getting flashed during the day cause your damn pos ebay hid's are blinding oncoming traffic. Your headlight housings are not designed for HID period.
Prove they are brighter than oem stock hid. Your getting flashed during the day cause your damn pos ebay hid's are blinding oncoming traffic. Your headlight housings are not designed for HID period.
i have catz 4300k, i've never been flashed at, and they are brighter then oem bulbs or those crappy fake "hid" bulbs they sell.
i dont recommend anything higher then 6000k,
i dont recommend anything higher then 6000k,
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Re: looking to get HID's (01HonderCivic)
HIDs make me think of those old Cash Money Millionaire music videos.
"Bling Bling!!! Everytime I come around your city Bling Bling!"
I'm down... Should be helpful when Running Night of the Living Dead Autox... haha
"Bling Bling!!! Everytime I come around your city Bling Bling!"
I'm down... Should be helpful when Running Night of the Living Dead Autox... haha
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fventura03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i dont recommend anything higher then 6000k, </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01HonderCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you're making a show car that you don't daily drive, don't get anything above 6000K</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ X212442351. If you DD anything above 8000K you should be slapped.
i dont recommend anything higher then 6000k, </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01HonderCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you're making a show car that you don't daily drive, don't get anything above 6000K</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ X212442351. If you DD anything above 8000K you should be slapped.
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http://www.7thgencivic.com/for...70933
those are my 6000k's. i had them and they work fine. but i just got a retrofit
Bi Xenons from a E46 3 Series with ZKW lenses god i love them
those are my 6000k's. i had them and they work fine. but i just got a retrofit
Bi Xenons from a E46 3 Series with ZKW lenses god i love them
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Re: (fventura03)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fventura03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">catz 
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where did you get the catz ones?
</TD></TR></TABLE>where did you get the catz ones?
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the xenon vision is actually pretty good... i've had it for a while now and still bright, http://www.xenon-vision.com
Re: (Mars Blackmon)
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where did you get the catz ones?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jalapenochip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">catz are near impossible to find used, and impossible to find new. They offer the best cut off for pnp hid kits, also expensive</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.brightheadlights-hi...s.htm
where did you get the catz ones?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jalapenochip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">catz are near impossible to find used, and impossible to find new. They offer the best cut off for pnp hid kits, also expensive</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.brightheadlights-hi...s.htm
Re: (jalapenochip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jalapenochip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn, never been able to find those. But for the price and even cheaper, you can do a retrofit</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 minutes worth of Google'ing.
2 minutes worth of Google'ing.
Re: (fventura03)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fventura03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expensive, huh</TD></TR></TABLE>
For high quality products? I guess, it all depends on how you put it. In perspective, I'd say no.
For high quality products? I guess, it all depends on how you put it.
In perspective, I'd say no.