It is not much info but I find it kinda intresting...

These Turbo`s are developed in sweeden..
They have been upgading turbo`s the past 25 years.

The turbos are slightly diffrent than garret, with less lag and still high hp.
They are more concerned on building a turbo that is fast spooling and still capable of flowing enough air to get those high HP machines.

I haven`t managed to dug up all the secreds but some exotic materials to the impellers/ shaft. and non BB is used.

I am convinced, a 1000hp turbo on a 1300cc hayabusa..
and it spools early.(5500)

http://www.turboservice.se/RaceTurbo.html

prices?

well the sx 1500hp turbo is $4400.


Kompressor diameter 81,0 mm
Kompressor backwheel diameter 122,0 mm
Kompressor Intake 152,0 mm
Turbinhjul: Exducer diameter 94,8 mm
Rektanguler flens mot grenrør type H3.(the exhaust flange/housing can be changed)

I have at least consider taking a look.

(wish I had more details)

 

That's pretty awesome. Too bad they're priced beyond the reach of most of the peasants here on Honda-Tech (myself included )

 

it looks cool but by the time I could afford one they will have a newer better cheaper turbo than this one... nice find though Ive never heard of it

 

arent these the KKK brand turbos? the same brad found on audi's and Vdubs?

 

No, not really KKK`s as said before they are special designed they may use the cast of a KKK housing, but the inside of housings are diffrent, so is the parts inside(sorry I cant go further in to details,( I dont know too much about them but are still facinated after a visit in their stand )

 

hmm... well, i will stick with my 42r

 

I'll believe a 1000 HP capable turbo that spools at 5500 on a Hayabusa when I see it, unless you forgot to mention the 250 HP hit of nitrous at 4000.

 

I thought the same untill I saw the dynosheet and the bike
No ******* way it`s impossible...
actually I was wrong..

hopefully I`ll get the pictures we took at the show..

And you with the gt 42R, I also purcased one, but hell I want to test these two turbos together in the same setup(my car)

 

those turbos are pretty sweet, but some of the smaller ones are cheaper than the one listed...

and to the 2 of you guys up above w/ the 42Rs......i hate you guys

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by atec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I thought the same untill I saw the dynosheet and the bike
No ******* way it`s impossible...
actually I was wrong..

hopefully I`ll get the pictures we took at the show..

And you with the gt 42R, I also purcased one, but hell I want to test these two turbos together in the same setup(my car)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sorry, but there is no way that is possible to make 1000 uncorrected HP from a turbo 1300cc motor with no nitrous and spool the turbo up by 5500 RPM's. A 650 HP capable SC61 doesn't spool till about 5500 RPM's on a 1.6L B16. If they could build turbos that spooled that quick and made that much horsepower, Garrett would have bought them up a long time ago and taken over their technology.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm sorry, but there is no way that is possible to make 1000 uncorrected HP from a turbo 1300cc motor with no nitrous and spool the turbo up by 5500 RPM's. A 650 HP capable SC61 doesn't spool till about 5500 RPM's on a 1.6L B16. If they could build turbos that spooled that quick and made that much horsepower, Garrett would have bought them up a long time ago and taken over their technology.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i believe he meant say that a turbo, capable of making 1000hp, a turbo that's equivalent (in size) to a gt42r, was spooled at 5500rpm on a busa. not making 1000hp, but a 1000hp capable turbo was spooled at 5500rpm.

please correct me if im wrong.

 

exactly, the busa made 712++ something at 9000k.
Btw some ppl have an artpride lol they just dont sell inventions that fast.
and fyi They are pretty new with this products..

Im getting that dynosheet and some pics, just be patient

 

man, these look most bodacious! &lt;/bill and ted&gt;

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i believe he meant say that a turbo, capable of making 1000hp, a turbo that's equivalent (in size) to a gt42r, was spooled at 5500rpm on a busa. not making 1000hp, but a 1000hp capable turbo was spooled at 5500rpm.

please correct me if im wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now go ahead and read what I said again carefully, and see you just said exactly what I said.

I don't care if it "only" made 700 WHP, there is no way a turbo that will support 1000 HP will make useable boost at 5500 RPM's on a 1.3L motor without nitrous.

 

those are switzer turbos...

 

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Well I was poking around, and this one http://www.turboservice.se/KX400.html - size is about that of a t3/t04b s-trim, price is under $2000. I just wasn't in that jibberish I can't read. Assuming they spool faster but still make the HP, they may be worth the price to some people. To the majority, theres no way its better than a tiny squirt of nos with a bb turbo.

As far as function goes, Garrett really is more of an OEM than full-out race turbo. Hell, they still make turbos designed 30yrs ago, and even their 'hot' turbos are based on designs from the 90's, not to mention very basic materials. I'd be more interested in the usable lifespan of such a turbo. Turbos like the modified gt35-based snails from audi lemans cars aren't meant to last more than one race, and not just because they produce boost higher than some air tools can withstand.

 

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Now go ahead and read what I said again carefully, and see you just said exactly what I said.

I don't care if it "only" made 700 WHP, there is no way a turbo that will support 1000 HP will make useable boost at 5500 RPM's on a 1.3L motor without nitrous.</TD></TR></TABLE>

1) you said the following "I'm sorry, but there is no way that is possible to make 1000 uncorrected HP from a turbo 1300cc motor with blah blah blah blahalh" so i decided to clear it up -- it didn't make 1000 whp. final answer.

2) wtf is useable boost? better yet.. tell me what un-useable boost is.

 

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I don't care if it "only" made 700 WHP, there is no way a turbo that will support 1000 HP will make useable boost at 5500 RPM's on a 1.3L motor without nitrous.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The old 2.6 V8 Honda F1 motors made full boost (2.5bar) at 4500rpms. That is 1.3L per bank of cylinders...and these motors were rumored to make upwards of 1200hp. Add newer turbo technology...you bet it is possible.

The new 997 Turbo makes full boost at 1850rpm's (14psi) using two variable vain turbo's made by BorgWarner.

 

sorry but the turbo used was a schwitzer s400 compressor and a s300 turbine section on the busa you speak of. How do I know? It was tuned and dynoed and then brought down to the hp shootout by us.

It made 701 hp down at the dynojet hp challange in valdosta.

NLR sweden put the turbo together .

It did make like 1 psi at 5500 rpm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The old 2.6 V8 Honda F1 motors made full boost (2.5bar) at 4500rpms. That is 1.3L per bank of cylinders...and these motors were rumored to make upwards of 1200hp. Add newer turbo technology...you bet it is possible.

The new 997 Turbo makes full boost at 1850rpm's (14psi) using two variable vain turbo's made by BorgWarner.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The RA165/166E were 1.5L V6 motors. Initially, they ran 4bar of boost, and later regulations limited them to 2.5bar. Even more remarkable considering their smaller displacement.

 

hmm....... interesting.

 

so these are BW/Switzer Airwerks turbos

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NLR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry but the turbo used was a schwitzer s400 compressor and a s300 turbine section on the busa you speak of. How do I know? It was tuned and dynoed and then brought down to the hp shootout by us.

It made 701 hp down at the dynojet hp challange in valdosta.

NLR sweden put the turbo together .

It did make like 1 psi at 5500 rpm

</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

looked over the data again and it made 1 psi at 5k, 8 psi at 8k and 42 psi at 9500k LOL!!!!